Don, K4KYV sed: "Actually, I don't find a slight chirp or raspiness objectionable, if the signal is otherwise stable and narrow." You're in the minority, Don. One of the reasons I quit using my Valiant was because I got tired of hearing "Hey, OM, you chirp..." Old Betsy has a nice tone, she just chirps a little on 40 and below.. John WB9OFG