I rembember reading in an electronics magazine where a c.b. operator who lived in an apartment complex, ran coax from his window to his mobile , and hooked up the mobile antennas to his base station rig and covered up the offending coax and no one suspected. Could this be transfered to ham. I also heard of hams using downspouts and rain gutters and dipoles on rose trellis. 73's de Allan Egleston, kf6uxj