[CAham] 146.520

[Brent Corbin]

Hi Dave...  I'll bet we're nearly line-of-sight to each other...

TASMA has actually allocated 146.460 for remotes.  On a whim, 
I decided to run through my notes and see what I could dig up
on the other bands -

6m   ---    53.000  --- SCRRBA
2m   ---   146.460  --- TASMA
220  ---   -------  --- 220sma
440  ---   449.460  --- SCRRBA
1.2G ---  1294.700  --- SCRRBA 

It doesn't look like the 220sma has set anything aside specifically
for remote bases.  Aux-links are prohibited on 222.06-222.08 and 
222.12, and allowed from 223.72-223.74, but R/B's aren't quite 
auxiliary stations, so it's not clear.  No limitations are 
placed 223.4-223.52, other than to point out that 223.5 is the 
national calling freq.

SCRRBA really should make it a point to teach everyone it entrusts
with a repeater pair basic operating etiquette.  And of course the
owners/trustees should make it a point to educate each and everyone
they give control-op privileges to.  Because they've abdicated that
responsibility, there's a lot of ill-will brewing...  

In turn, I suppose, those of us on the simplex side of things 
oughta be patient.  There are a lot of repeater-folk, who through
little/no fault of their own are completely ignorant of simplex
band plans -  how many times have you heard FM below 144.3?
...below 144.1?!?  ...in the Oscar passband?   How many times
have you heard a new voice on 146.52 say something like 'I've had
my radio for xx years, and have only been on .52 twice'?  How many
of you know where to find the local band plans?

We should probably lead by example - if we try to play channel cop,
everybody will be ticked off, and nothing will be gained.  If we
accept them into the fold (however reluctantly at first), we have
an opportunity to gently educate them on how to behave in _our_
community.  Engage a RB operator in discussion, and ask them
*politely* to QSY to 146.46 "so we don't tie up the calling channel".
Ask him about the coverage of the machine, and whether or not he
hears the dozens of conversations that are taking place simultaneously
"...that's the great part about low-level simplex..."  etc etc...

And perhaps (most painfully for me), we should consider moving our 
low-level conversations off 146.52 if they run on too long, if only
to set an example...

Speaking of running on too long...  8*)



On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 11:34:26PM -0800, Dave Stephens wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> heard it on the output of this repeater here. now if you are going to go
> hop in your car and drive on a mountain and call CQ on 146.52, 52.525,
> or 446.000 then ok. why not. no big thing really. but to have a remote
> base up there is not very smart. not to mention a steerable remote on a
> mountain that have a large amount of other recievers on it. 146.49 is a
> simplex freq that is pretty much FOR remote bases. they should leave it
> that way. i agree with you brent. keep them off of there.
> 
> now as for SCRRBA doing some educating. well yeah right. i personaly
> dont think much of them at all but whatever. thats just my thoughts of
> them. you can tell the owners of these remotes to please stay off there
> but i doubt that they will heed to it and if they did who is to say that
> the large amount of users on these systems will do the same. most of
> these people are just DTMF happy anyways if you ask me. they think it is
> "TOTALY AWSOME DUDE" that they can do a bunch of stuff with a pipo pad.
> i mean its cool and all but give it a rest sometimes.
> 
> thats my thoughts.
> 
> Dave
> KF6WJA