[CAham] 146.520

[Dave Stephens]

Brent
My bad. 146.46. i meant that. not 146.49. heh heh heh. i dont know why it is
that i get those 2 freqs mixed up.

there are parts of me that agree with you and think that those of us that use
simplex freqs should be patient with those RB users that dont really know
better but then there is that part of me that also believes that ignorance is
no excuse. as a ham you have a responcabilaty to learn these things. no you
shouldnt have to learn EVERY little thing about ham radio but you should know
about you what you are doing. such as band plans, and "proper edicate" of use.
i will be the first one to say i have made mistakes. hell the first contest i
took part in was an ARRL VHF contest. the contest started and what did i do? i
called CQ CONTEST on 146.52 from Rodgers Peak (aprox 10000 feet ASL). OOPS. i
got ran off there really fast and i said to myself, i said "self, that was
stupid of you".

it has gotten to the point now that i dont listen to 146.52 anymore. i got
tiered of hearing it. but you know what the owner of this repeater system has
been asked several times to not do this. i believe that if i do find myself
back on 52 and i hear that remote base there i will tell them "hey goto 46."
im sorry .. its gotten old. but i doubt that they will cause he has also been
contacted about causing problems to local 440 repeater here and he still is
doing it so whatever. i think being polite has been done. now its time to be a
bit more stern.

Dave

Brent Corbin wrote:

> Hi Dave...  I'll bet we're nearly line-of-sight to each other...
>
> TASMA has actually allocated 146.460 for remotes.  On a whim,
> I decided to run through my notes and see what I could dig up
> on the other bands -
>
> 6m   ---    53.000  --- SCRRBA
> 2m   ---   146.460  --- TASMA
> 220  ---   -------  --- 220sma
> 440  ---   449.460  --- SCRRBA
> 1.2G ---  1294.700  --- SCRRBA
>
> It doesn't look like the 220sma has set anything aside specifically
> for remote bases.  Aux-links are prohibited on 222.06-222.08 and
> 222.12, and allowed from 223.72-223.74, but R/B's aren't quite
> auxiliary stations, so it's not clear.  No limitations are
> placed 223.4-223.52, other than to point out that 223.5 is the
> national calling freq.
>
> SCRRBA really should make it a point to teach everyone it entrusts
> with a repeater pair basic operating etiquette.  And of course the
> owners/trustees should make it a point to educate each and everyone
> they give control-op privileges to.  Because they've abdicated that
> responsibility, there's a lot of ill-will brewing...
>
> In turn, I suppose, those of us on the simplex side of things
> oughta be patient.  There are a lot of repeater-folk, who through
> little/no fault of their own are completely ignorant of simplex
> band plans -  how many times have you heard FM below 144.3?
> ...below 144.1?!?  ...in the Oscar passband?   How many times
> have you heard a new voice on 146.52 say something like 'I've had
> my radio for xx years, and have only been on .52 twice'?  How many
> of you know where to find the local band plans?
>
> We should probably lead by example - if we try to play channel cop,
> everybody will be ticked off, and nothing will be gained.  If we
> accept them into the fold (however reluctantly at first), we have
> an opportunity to gently educate them on how to behave in _our_
> community.  Engage a RB operator in discussion, and ask them
> *politely* to QSY to 146.46 "so we don't tie up the calling channel".
> Ask him about the coverage of the machine, and whether or not he
> hears the dozens of conversations that are taking place simultaneously
> "...that's the great part about low-level simplex..."  etc etc...
>
> And perhaps (most painfully for me), we should consider moving our
> low-level conversations off 146.52 if they run on too long, if only
> to set an example...
>
> Speaking of running on too long...  8*)
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 11:34:26PM -0800, Dave Stephens wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > heard it on the output of this repeater here. now if you are going to go
> > hop in your car and drive on a mountain and call CQ on 146.52, 52.525,
> > or 446.000 then ok. why not. no big thing really. but to have a remote
> > base up there is not very smart. not to mention a steerable remote on a
> > mountain that have a large amount of other recievers on it. 146.49 is a
> > simplex freq that is pretty much FOR remote bases. they should leave it
> > that way. i agree with you brent. keep them off of there.
> >
> > now as for SCRRBA doing some educating. well yeah right. i personaly
> > dont think much of them at all but whatever. thats just my thoughts of
> > them. you can tell the owners of these remotes to please stay off there
> > but i doubt that they will heed to it and if they did who is to say that
> > the large amount of users on these systems will do the same. most of
> > these people are just DTMF happy anyways if you ask me. they think it is
> > "TOTALY AWSOME DUDE" that they can do a bunch of stuff with a pipo pad.
> > i mean its cool and all but give it a rest sometimes.
> >
> > thats my thoughts.
> >
> > Dave
> > KF6WJA
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