[Boatanchors] Ebay problems

[Carl]

Ebay is no longer a Wall Street darling which is why the mother cow was 
put out to pasture and a new CEO brought in by the Street.

Buyers were leaving was the excuse given for the new changes. Yes, a lot 
of idiots were leaving after they were either too stupid to understand 
what they were buying and got negative FB in return from a frustrated 
seller OR they were trying to pull scams of their own.

Sellers have never had any recourse against Ebay ( or PayPal) and FB was 
their only way to vent. Only a few bad sellers were used to try and 
establish reason for change when in truth the percentage of good sellers 
is larger than good buyers.

I had a good friend on the Power Sellers direct hotline in Salt Lake 
City for many years who gave me a lot of inside info. He finally couldnt 
take the outright dishonesty and lies that he was told to tell sellers 
and being a good Mormon finally quit last month in disgust.

My Ebay experiences since 1998 have been all downhill since around 
2002-3.

With sellers being the goose that gives the gold to Ebay I see a dark 
future for both.

I will gladly support anything that brings both Ebay and PayPal to their 
knees and hopefully with a multi million dollar class action law suit.

Carl
KM1H



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "EP Swynar" <gswynar at durham.net>
To: "Dave Mayfield" <laptop at gwltd.com>; "Harold Smith" 
<w0rihps at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "Boatanchors" <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Ebay problems


> Hi Dave,
>
> As the old saying goes, "...to everything there is a time..."
>
> I would venture to say that the bloom is now off of the eBay rose, and 
> while
> I agree that it's a GREAT venue to find & buy things not otherwise 
> easily
> located, the SELLERS of these collectable tidbits are only human, 
> too --- 
> sooner or later they'll surely tire of all the B.S., and drop out as 
> well...
>
> Why couldn't eBay have simply left well enough alone? I noticed that 
> in the
> infrequent times that I'd want to sell something there, I had to go 
> through
> an entirely new learning process each & every time. It was 
> frustrating, and
> maddening, both. Why tamper with what works...?
>
> My feeling is that things are NOT so rosey in eBay land anymore --- I
> receive what seems like WEEKLY beseechments from them to take 
> advantage of
> "no fee" Canadian listing bargaining days, etc. etc. etc. I just treat 
> such
> appeals like so much junk mail, & simply delete them...my credit card 
> info
> with them expired in February, too, & I haven't bothered to 
> re-register,
> either.
>
> I guess I'm just waiting for the next "big thing" to come along to 
> replace
> eBay, so that I might P & M about it! Hi Hi.
>
> ~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
>
>
> ****************************************
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Mayfield" <laptop at gwltd.com>
> To: "Harold Smith" <w0rihps at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: "Boatanchors" <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>; <sales at ebay.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Ebay problems
>
>
>> Harold, you are one of very few in the E-bay world. I too bought and
>> sold on E-bay and for longer than you. I started in 98 and I have
>> finally canceled my account this past spring. I won't take my time to
>> tell you the whole story but it goes like this. Scams, scams, scams,
>> I've never been bit by a scam, but I've had to relist items. Last 
>> winter
>> I was selling my S-line station. It took me three months to finally 
>> sell
>> it. Because of many things such as E-bay rules. They pulled my ad 
>> once
>> because I said in the ad "No Pay Pal" Then two or three times people
>> would bid on the items then after the auction was over E-bay would
>> cancel the bids, saying that someones e-bay id was stolen and these 
>> were
>> false bids and on and on and on. E-bay has gotten to the point I feel
>> it's not usable. One last word. E-bay could care less about all this.
>> When I wrote to them about all the trouble they just send a pre 
>> canned
>> automated response filled with nothing. Then when I canceled my 
>> account
>> they care so less they don't even ask you why? can we do something to
>> help? nothing.
>>
>> Dave W9WRL
>>
>> Harold Smith wrote:
>> > Lloyd:
>> >
>> > What is your problem with Ebay??
>> >
>> > I have used their service for many years, actually 9 years. I have
>> > never had any problems, either buying or selling.
>> > My feedback score is over 1100.
>> >
>> > I do follow their policies and it works fine for me. Yes, they do 
>> > have
>> > charges to sell but not to buy.
>> >
>> > I have bought and sold items from all over the world,  US$5.00 to
>> > US$8000 and all their transactions were smooth.
>> >
>> > Complaint????????????????????
>> >
>> > Please tell ME.
>> >
>> > Harold Smith.......W0RI
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> I just got off the phone with the Federal Trade Commission.
>> >> They want to hear from you.
>> >> You can file a complaint by calling
>> >> 1-877-382-4357
>> >> or go to their web site
>> >> www.ftc.gov
>> >> home page---quick find---consumer complaints.
>> >> Stand up and shout. I understand it does not take many voices to 
>> >> make
>> >> them pay attention,
>> >> after all they have to justify their existence.
>> >> Scream, shout, jump up and down. Do something besides complain.
>> >> Pass this on to any reflector you can.
>> >> And I dam well got 'nads 'nuf to sign my name to it.
>> >> Thanx
>> >> Lloyd  KK7IZ
>> >> kk7iz at cox.net
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> -- 
>>      Dave W9WRL
>>  www.w9wrl.com/w9wrl
>>
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