[ARC5] ARC5 Digest, Vol 173, Issue 31
Bill Cromwell
wrcromwell at gmail.com
Tue Jun 19 11:22:29 EDT 2018
Hi Mark,
I have a radio with a proprietary chip that has failed. I am going to
try using one of the inexpensive arduinos to provide the missing
functions. I think that approach is viable. It comes to the same thing
as 'updating' older legacy gear with more modern parts - parts that were
not available when those radios were designed and manufactured. I am
updating newfangled gear with even newer and more fangled (?) parts.
Maybe we should be thing more about that. Before excommunicating me
consider that I am still using gear that was made in the 1930s and 1940s
and still using a Johnson lashup (ranger and accessories) along with a
DX-100 and overhauling a HW-16 for regular use. Not least is my RAK-7
and those aircraft command receivers. It's all good :)
73,
Bill KU8H
On 06/19/2018 11:03 AM, Mark K3MSB wrote:
> You can use tube gear in contests and use computer logging; that avoids
> the paper log and duping process. A memory keyer avoids the glass
> arm. That’s a nice way to do vintage contesting. Of course if your
> transmitter and receiver doesn’t have a transceive function the workload
> goes up significantly and, in my opinion, it’s no long fun. I did this
> for quite a few years when I owned my completely decked out Drake C
> Line. I am still kicking myself for selling those radios…..
>
> You can take computer integration to various levels. Our club station
> is fully integrated with web spotting. New mults show up in the
> dialog box. I click on the spot and the transceiver goes to the
> spotted frequency. I push a “button” on the display and squirt out
> our call, then push another button to send the exchange. Push yet
> another button and I’m back to where I was. It’s the way of modern
> contesting. I’ve lamented it’s kind of like shooting fish in a
> barrel, and I really wish the contest organizers would allow
> multi-single non-assisted entries; most only allow multi-single
> assisted. But I’m a bit of a dinosaur……
>
> One of the drawbacks of modern radios is, as has been pointed out,
> custom chips that will eventually go end of life. Hams are used to
> radios that last a long time; the end of life time for these custom
> parts is a lot less. So, the big contesters will not be using radios
> that are very old. It’s the same for all the electronics in our
> cars. I wonder what the agreed upon end of life time is for a car
> produced in recent years, between manufacturers and suppliers. I’m
> used to keeping cars until they are driven to the junk yard. I just
> bought a new 2018 and I doubt I’ll be able to do that. I think the
> introduction of all this in-vehicle electronics will be causing a
> fundamental shift in the used car market. Same for the used ham
> market, but on a smaller scale.
>
> 73 Mark K3MSB
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 9:25 PM jbrannig <jbrannig at verizon.net
> <mailto:jbrannig at verizon.net>> wrote:
>
> I used a lot of tube gear in various contests, seperates, amps with
> plug in coils, S-lines, etc.
>
> BUT, contest software and a rig connected to a computer....is the
> difference between working a contest and enjoying one.
>
> Spend hours dupe checking a paper log with 800+ QSO's and producing
> a contest summary......or click and send.....
> Band maps, spotting, one click band change.
>
> While I'm still comfortable sending with my right hand and writing a
> log with my left....typing in calls beats all... and no glass arm
> the next day...
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>
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> 1. Re: ARC5 Digest, (Christopher Bowne)
> 2. Re: ARC5 Digest, Vol 173, Issue 29 (Glen Zook)
> 3. Re: Batteries That Do Not Corrode? (Robert Downs)
> 4. Re: ARC5 Digest, Vol 173, Issue 29 (Mkdorney)
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> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 18:03:04 -0400
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> That?s why I?m running a CE 20A/600L and Halli receivers of late ,
> with the factory converted T-20/ARC-5 VFO, while my Yaesu FT-100D is
> OOC, probably permanently.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 18, 2018, at 17:30, w8au at sssnet.com
> <mailto:w8au at sssnet.com> wrote:
> >
> > At 05:11 PM 6/18/2018, jbrannig wrote:
> >> Unless you use tube gear for CW contesting......
> >
> > And tube gear can be repaired for a long time to come since
> standard parts are used.
> > Try to fix a solid state rig containing IC's produced for a
> specific production or time frame
> > and you are out of luck.
> >
> >>
> .................................................................................
> >> Mark D. WW2RDO wrote:
> >> Bet you don't find a lot of vacuum tube gear still being used. If
> vacuum tube stuff were easy to keep operating, everybody could do
> it.? The latest, greatest wiz bag gear is easy to get and use if you
> have the money to do it.? Where's the fun in that?? I feel sorry for
> the guys who don't use the old gear.?
> >> Keep 'em glowing
> >
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> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 22:19:30 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Glen Zook <gzook at yahoo.com <mailto:gzook at yahoo.com>>
> To: jbrannig <jbrannig at verizon.net <mailto:jbrannig at verizon.net>>,
> "arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>"
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> Subject: Re: [ARC5] ARC5 Digest, Vol 173, Issue 29
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> If you are in an area that has a fair number of contesters, then a
> lot of the solid-state equipment goes "belly up" and the tube type
> gear keeps rolling along!? "Front end" overload!
>
> Actually, with equipment like the Collins S-Line or Heath SB-Line,
> and with appropriate CW filters, tube type equipment can keep right
> up with the "modern" equipment and, usually, with a cleaner signal!?
> Glen, K9STH?
> Website: http://k9sth.net
>
> From: jbrannig <jbrannig at verizon.net
> <mailto:jbrannig at verizon.net>>
> To: arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 4:12 PM
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> Unless you use tube gear for CW contesting......
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> From: "Robert Downs" <wa5cab at cs.com <mailto:wa5cab at cs.com>>
> To: <arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>>
> Subject: Re: [ARC5] Batteries That Do Not Corrode?
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> They did and they do. As I just told Jim, I corrected the error the
> next
> day but there is no way on a reflector to un-ring the bell.
>
> Robert Downs
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> <mailto:arc5-bounces at mailman.qth.net>] On
> Behalf Of Richard Knoppow
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 2:22 PM
> To: arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [ARC5] Batteries That Do Not Corrode?
>
> I have the same impression. I read something recently about
> how these batteries were assembled but don't remember where.
> Maybe on the web. However a google search for lantern batteries
> turned up
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lantern_battery Which mentions
> both D and F cells.
> Also:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battery_sizes
> which has dimensions. F cells are about half way down.
>
> On 6/18/2018 12:04 PM, Jim Wiley wrote:
> > I always thought that a standard? "lantern battery" consisted of
> > four type "F" cells, not "D" cells.
> >
> > - Jim, KL7CC
> >
> >
>
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> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 20:18:26 -0400
> From: Mkdorney <mkdorney at aol.com <mailto:mkdorney at aol.com>>
> To: Glen Zook <gzook at yahoo.com <mailto:gzook at yahoo.com>>
> Cc: "arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>"
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> Subject: Re: [ARC5] ARC5 Digest, Vol 173, Issue 29
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> But it?s not the latest wiz-bang gear!!! Won?t that upset the
> Amateur Radio elite??
>
> Keep ?em glowing
>
> Mark D
> WW2RDO
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jun 18, 2018, at 6:19 PM, Glen Zook via ARC5
> <arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:
> >
> > If you are in an area that has a fair number of contesters, then a
> lot of the solid-state equipment goes "belly up" and the tube type
> gear keeps rolling along! "Front end" overload!
> >
> >
> > Actually, with equipment like the Collins S-Line or Heath SB-Line,
> and with appropriate CW filters, tube type equipment can keep right
> up with the "modern" equipment and, usually, with a cleaner signal!
> >
> >
> > Glen, K9STH
> >
> > Website: http://k9sth.net
> >
> >
> > From: jbrannig <jbrannig at verizon.net <mailto:jbrannig at verizon.net>>
> > To: arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 4:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ARC5] ARC5 Digest, Vol 173, Issue 29
> >
> > Unless you use tube gear for CW contesting......
> >
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