[ARC5] ARC5 Digest, Vol 173, Issue 31
Peter Gottlieb
kb2vtl at gmail.com
Tue Jun 19 11:30:32 EDT 2018
Just because you like scotch doesn’t mean you don’t also enjoy a good glass of wine or a cold brew.
Peter
> On Jun 19, 2018, at 11:22 AM, Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> I have a radio with a proprietary chip that has failed. I am going to try using one of the inexpensive arduinos to provide the missing functions. I think that approach is viable. It comes to the same thing as 'updating' older legacy gear with more modern parts - parts that were not available when those radios were designed and manufactured. I am updating newfangled gear with even newer and more fangled (?) parts.
>
> Maybe we should be thing more about that. Before excommunicating me consider that I am still using gear that was made in the 1930s and 1940s and still using a Johnson lashup (ranger and accessories) along with a DX-100 and overhauling a HW-16 for regular use. Not least is my RAK-7 and those aircraft command receivers. It's all good :)
>
> 73,
>
> Bill KU8H
>
>> On 06/19/2018 11:03 AM, Mark K3MSB wrote:
>> You can use tube gear in contests and use computer logging; that avoids
>> the paper log and duping process. A memory keyer avoids the glass
>> arm. That’s a nice way to do vintage contesting. Of course if your
>> transmitter and receiver doesn’t have a transceive function the workload
>> goes up significantly and, in my opinion, it’s no long fun. I did this
>> for quite a few years when I owned my completely decked out Drake C
>> Line. I am still kicking myself for selling those radios…..
>>
>> You can take computer integration to various levels. Our club station
>> is fully integrated with web spotting. New mults show up in the
>> dialog box. I click on the spot and the transceiver goes to the
>> spotted frequency. I push a “button” on the display and squirt out
>> our call, then push another button to send the exchange. Push yet
>> another button and I’m back to where I was. It’s the way of modern
>> contesting. I’ve lamented it’s kind of like shooting fish in a
>> barrel, and I really wish the contest organizers would allow
>> multi-single non-assisted entries; most only allow multi-single
>> assisted. But I’m a bit of a dinosaur……
>>
>> One of the drawbacks of modern radios is, as has been pointed out,
>> custom chips that will eventually go end of life. Hams are used to
>> radios that last a long time; the end of life time for these custom
>> parts is a lot less. So, the big contesters will not be using radios
>> that are very old. It’s the same for all the electronics in our
>> cars. I wonder what the agreed upon end of life time is for a car
>> produced in recent years, between manufacturers and suppliers. I’m
>> used to keeping cars until they are driven to the junk yard. I just
>> bought a new 2018 and I doubt I’ll be able to do that. I think the
>> introduction of all this in-vehicle electronics will be causing a
>> fundamental shift in the used car market. Same for the used ham
>> market, but on a smaller scale.
>>
>> 73 Mark K3MSB
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 9:25 PM jbrannig <jbrannig at verizon.net
>> <mailto:jbrannig at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I used a lot of tube gear in various contests, seperates, amps with
>> plug in coils, S-lines, etc.
>>
>> BUT, contest software and a rig connected to a computer....is the
>> difference between working a contest and enjoying one.
>>
>> Spend hours dupe checking a paper log with 800+ QSO's and producing
>> a contest summary......or click and send.....
>> Band maps, spotting, one click band change.
>>
>> While I'm still comfortable sending with my right hand and writing a
>> log with my left....typing in calls beats all... and no glass arm
>> the next day...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>>
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>> 1. Re: ARC5 Digest, (Christopher Bowne)
>> 2. Re: ARC5 Digest, Vol 173, Issue 29 (Glen Zook)
>> 3. Re: Batteries That Do Not Corrode? (Robert Downs)
>> 4. Re: ARC5 Digest, Vol 173, Issue 29 (Mkdorney)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 18:03:04 -0400
>> From: Christopher Bowne <aj1g at sbcglobal.net <mailto:aj1g at sbcglobal.net>>
>> To: w8au at sssnet.com <mailto:w8au at sssnet.com>
>> Cc: arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [ARC5] ARC5 Digest,
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>> That?s why I?m running a CE 20A/600L and Halli receivers of late ,
>> with the factory converted T-20/ARC-5 VFO, while my Yaesu FT-100D is
>> OOC, probably permanently.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jun 18, 2018, at 17:30, w8au at sssnet.com
>> <mailto:w8au at sssnet.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > At 05:11 PM 6/18/2018, jbrannig wrote:
>> >> Unless you use tube gear for CW contesting......
>> >
>> > And tube gear can be repaired for a long time to come since
>> standard parts are used.
>> > Try to fix a solid state rig containing IC's produced for a
>> specific production or time frame
>> > and you are out of luck.
>> >
>> >>
>> .................................................................................
>> >> Mark D. WW2RDO wrote:
>> >> Bet you don't find a lot of vacuum tube gear still being used. If
>> vacuum tube stuff were easy to keep operating, everybody could do
>> it.? The latest, greatest wiz bag gear is easy to get and use if you
>> have the money to do it.? Where's the fun in that?? I feel sorry for
>> the guys who don't use the old gear.?
>> >> Keep 'em glowing
>> >
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 22:19:30 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Glen Zook <gzook at yahoo.com <mailto:gzook at yahoo.com>>
>> To: jbrannig <jbrannig at verizon.net <mailto:jbrannig at verizon.net>>,
>> "arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>"
>> <arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [ARC5] ARC5 Digest, Vol 173, Issue 29
>> Message-ID: <1957836257.1567564.1529360370280 at mail.yahoo.com
>> <mailto:1957836257.1567564.1529360370280 at mail.yahoo.com>>
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>> If you are in an area that has a fair number of contesters, then a
>> lot of the solid-state equipment goes "belly up" and the tube type
>> gear keeps rolling along!? "Front end" overload!
>>
>> Actually, with equipment like the Collins S-Line or Heath SB-Line,
>> and with appropriate CW filters, tube type equipment can keep right
>> up with the "modern" equipment and, usually, with a cleaner signal!?
>> Glen, K9STH?
>> Website: http://k9sth.net
>>
>> From: jbrannig <jbrannig at verizon.net
>> <mailto:jbrannig at verizon.net>>
>> To: arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 4:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ARC5] ARC5 Digest, Vol 173, Issue 29
>>
>> Unless you use tube gear for CW contesting......
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>> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 17:42:51 -0500
>> From: "Robert Downs" <wa5cab at cs.com <mailto:wa5cab at cs.com>>
>> To: <arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [ARC5] Batteries That Do Not Corrode?
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>> They did and they do. As I just told Jim, I corrected the error the
>> next
>> day but there is no way on a reflector to un-ring the bell.
>>
>> Robert Downs
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>> [mailto:arc5-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> <mailto:arc5-bounces at mailman.qth.net>] On
>> Behalf Of Richard Knoppow
>> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 2:22 PM
>> To: arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [ARC5] Batteries That Do Not Corrode?
>>
>> I have the same impression. I read something recently about
>> how these batteries were assembled but don't remember where.
>> Maybe on the web. However a google search for lantern batteries
>> turned up
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lantern_battery Which mentions
>> both D and F cells.
>> Also:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battery_sizes
>> which has dimensions. F cells are about half way down.
>>
>> On 6/18/2018 12:04 PM, Jim Wiley wrote:
>> > I always thought that a standard? "lantern battery" consisted of
>> > four type "F" cells, not "D" cells.
>> >
>> > - Jim, KL7CC
>> >
>> >
>>
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>> Richard Knoppow
>> 1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com <mailto:1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com>
>> WB6KBL
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>> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 20:18:26 -0400
>> From: Mkdorney <mkdorney at aol.com <mailto:mkdorney at aol.com>>
>> To: Glen Zook <gzook at yahoo.com <mailto:gzook at yahoo.com>>
>> Cc: "arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>"
>> <arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>>, jbrannig
>> <jbrannig at verizon.net <mailto:jbrannig at verizon.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [ARC5] ARC5 Digest, Vol 173, Issue 29
>> Message-ID: <22262A2D-E10B-4748-8206-5A042B0FC6B4 at aol.com
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>> But it?s not the latest wiz-bang gear!!! Won?t that upset the
>> Amateur Radio elite??
>>
>> Keep ?em glowing
>>
>> Mark D
>> WW2RDO
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> > On Jun 18, 2018, at 6:19 PM, Glen Zook via ARC5
>> <arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> > If you are in an area that has a fair number of contesters, then a
>> lot of the solid-state equipment goes "belly up" and the tube type
>> gear keeps rolling along! "Front end" overload!
>> >
>> >
>> > Actually, with equipment like the Collins S-Line or Heath SB-Line,
>> and with appropriate CW filters, tube type equipment can keep right
>> up with the "modern" equipment and, usually, with a cleaner signal!
>> >
>> >
>> > Glen, K9STH
>> >
>> > Website: http://k9sth.net
>> >
>> >
>> > From: jbrannig <jbrannig at verizon.net <mailto:jbrannig at verizon.net>>
>> > To: arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
>> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 4:12 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [ARC5] ARC5 Digest, Vol 173, Issue 29
>> >
>> > Unless you use tube gear for CW contesting......
>> >
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