[ARC5] [Milsurplus] Cleaning fine crackle paint
Glen Zook via ARC5
arc5 at mailman.qth.net
Fri Apr 17 19:31:35 EDT 2015
I do rinse with water, etc. However, I have had absolutely no problems with this method and have been using it for decades. But, one definitely does have to be very careful and make sure that things get cleaned up. Also, as I said before, keep the solution away from i.f. transformers and such. Basically, the solution is for things like the chassis itself, removable shields, and so forth.
As for the sticking ceramic trimmers in the Collins equipment: I beg to differ about them getting stuck. Frankly, they get stuck just sitting there with air pollution, etc., contributing as well as just plain heat from the tubes. I have run into way too many stuck ceramic trimmers in equipment that have never been really cleaned (except, maybe, for an occasional dusting) with any chemicals, and such. Now, I definitely do not use the solution on S-Lines, KWM-2- series, and other equipment that have ceramic trimmers exposed. However, for most tube-type equipment, of the chassis type construction, the solution, if VERY carefully applied and cleaned properly works fine. As for circuit boards, no! There are much better methods that definitely work and that do not have the potential problems of the Formula 409 / ammonia solution.
Here is the method that I use when dealing with frozen ceramic trimmers like those used in the S-Line, KWM-2- series, etc.:
http://nebula.wsimg.com/b4593563b6cfc1734d3afe7affb48041?AccessKeyId=5DDC3F25F0398F58962E&disposition=0&alloworigin=1
I have been very successful in repairing the frozen ceramic trimmers. Glen, K9STH
Website: http://k9sth.net
From: Bill Carns <wcarns at austin.rr.com>
To: 'Glen Zook' <gzook at yahoo.com>; hwhall at compuserve.com; arc5 at mailman.qth.net; milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: [Milsurplus] Cleaning fine crackle paint
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