[ARC5] command set trivia

[Geoff]

I posted based upon incomplete info from others prior to Gordon putting out 
the real info.

Nonetheless a capital ship, read BIG, would/could have its own Supply 
Officer who was not a line officer. On smaller ships the Supply duty was 
assigned to a line officer, usually a Lt JG to Lt Cmdr as part of his 
training and resume to further advancement.

On one ship I served the EMO and SO was a LDO Lt.
National had a full 4 striper Supply Corps inspector for several years and 
he retired from there.

Carl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tim
To: Geoff
Cc: Bruce Long ; Gordon White ; ARC-5 List
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [ARC5] command set trivia


Hi Guys -
Captain Van V was an Unrestricted Line Officer (eligible for command at 
sea).  The "combat arm" of the Navy if you will.  That includes submariners 
and aviators....
A supply officer, just like the other support corps officers like medical , 
dentists, nurses, civil engineers etc. are not eligible for command at sea. 
Not unusual then or now for Unrestricted Line Officers to have commands in 
the "shore establishment" like naval stations, air stations etc - or in 
major procurement programs.  Some people go into managing procurement 
programs but it is a relatively narrow career field.

Tim




On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Geoff <geoffrey at jeremy.mv.com> wrote:

The USN has several branches with the primary one being that of command aka 
a Line Officer as in Ship of the Line. Those ships are the ones that can go 
BOOM.

Captain Van Valkenburgh would have been a Supply Officer, possibly still 
called a Ships Stores Officer in the 30's and not in line for command of a 
ship.

Other non line officers are Medical & JAG, Chaplain Corps, Civil Engineer 
Corps; all of which could advance to admiral within their own category.

The Limited Duty (LDO) and Warrant Officer are lower ranks. Both are 
promoted from the enlisted rates without having the required college degrees 
of the other ranks and can only go so far.
I retired as CWO4.

Carl





----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Long" <coolbrucelong at yahoo.com>
To: "Gordon White" <gewhite at crosslink.net>; <ARC5 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [ARC5] command set trivia


It seems strange to me a naval officer in 1938-39 would move from being the 
inspector of an important but still very small defense contractor right into 
command of a capital ship.
Not saying it is not true but what am I missing here? I understand the US 
military was very small pre-war but IIRC the naval buildup preceded Pearl 
Harbor by a couple of years.
Was Van Valkenburgh possibly a captain on the US Arizona but not the 
commanding officer?

Can anybody shed any light on this?




On Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:05 PM, Gordon White <gewhite at crosslink.net> 
wrote:

When I was researching the Command Sets I found one Franklin Van
Valkenburgh, Capt., USN, was the Inspector of Naval Material in New
York, in 1938-39, responsible for Aircraft Radio Corp production. (this
research was in the 1960s) As was my practice, I attempted to locate
Capt. Van Valkenburgh in case he might add to my knowledge.
Unfortunately, his next assignment was as commanding officer of the USS
Arizona.......

- Gordon White
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