[ARC5] Blackout ; Lend Lease and ARC-5's

Sun Jul 8 15:07:19 EDT 2012

AFAIK, aluminum can be recycled almost endlessly.

Mac - K2GKK

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On Jul 8, 2012, at 14:00, "Geoff" <geoffrey at jeremy.mv.com> wrote:

> Are you even aware of how many items in WW2 were made from aluminum?
> 
> Claiming psyops is for the pinheads around the Cambridge MA area.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quikus.com>
> To: "D C *Mac* Macdonald" <k2gkk at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "ARC-5 Mail List" <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARC5] Blackout ; Lend Lease and ARC-5's
> 
> 
>> I suspect that at least some of the rationing and things like scrap
>> aluminum drives were more psyops than really useful...  designed more as
>> team building (like the various 'walks for xxxxx').
>> 
>> For example, aluminum from scrap pots and pans would be of too variale
>> composition to make aircraft parts.
>> 
>> The British were the masters of this sort of thing...  The Man that Never
>> Was Enigma decrypts, virtual subs off the Falklands, and many more.
>> 
>> YMMV,
>> 
>> -John
>> 
>> ============
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> During most of WW II, I lived in Oneonta, NY which
>>> was the location of the central shops of the Delaware
>>> and Hudson RR. I remember periodic blackout drills
>>> several times a year.
>>> 
>>> I also remember an auto trip across NY state to visit
>>> grandparents in Chautauqua County in western NY state.
>>> In the middle of broad daylight, we were stopped for
>>> an air raid drill in the town of Addison, NY for about
>>> 1/2 hour. This was and still is, a very small town with
>>> nothing but what were then Erie RR tracks running through
>>> it. I had always wondered why they were so worried,
>>> especially when I got older and realized how unlikely
>>> it would be to have a Luftwaffe air raid in the middle
>>> of the day!
>>> 
>>> I now believe it was probably 99% psychological to
>>> bring civilians into "oneness" with the war effort.
>>> 
>>> * * * * * * * * * * *
>>> * 73 - Mac, K2GKK/5 *
>>> * (Since 30 Nov 53) *
>>> * k2gkk at hotmail.com *
>>> * Oklahoma City, OK *
>>> * USAF, Ret (61-81) *
>>> * * * * * * * * * * *
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: w7kxb at msn.com
>>>> To: vk2bcu at operamail.com; arc5 at mailman.qth.net
>>>> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 23:54:19 -0700
>>>> Subject: Re: [ARC5] Blackout ; Lend Lease and ARC-5's
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Les:Can't say what went on in California but, in Seattle WA, we had
>>>> blackout drills every now and then. Air Raid Warden would let you know
>>>> if he saw any light emitting from your abode.
>>>> The Russian Lend Lease program ran until (about) 1949. It was a giveaway
>>>> of about Nine Billion dollars worth of so called "Aid". A book titled
>>>> "from Major Jordan's diaries" by Maj. George R Jordan USAAF, gives a
>>>> pretty good eye opening account onwhat went thru the "Pipeline" , during
>>>> his watch, between Great Falls, MT; Fairbanks, AK and Russia, during
>>>> WW2. Ton's of HF/VHF gear. Maybe we can find some NIB ARC-5's from
>>>> there?
>>>> Cheers
>>>> de Bill-w7kxb . .
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: vk2bcu at operamail.com
>>>>> To: arc5 at mailman.qth.net
>>>>> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 15:46:49 +1000
>>>>> Subject: [ARC5] The comms war - VHF & HF (a bit OT).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>> Some-one with a better knowledge of history may be able to correct me
>>>> on
>>>>> the following point.
>>>> 
>>>> This point is illustrated well by my now-gone friend,
>>>>> Henk Bias. He was a Dutch pilot. He made the point that the Americans
>>>>> were so confident they would never be attacked that they took no
>>>> effort
>>>>> at black-out. He told me it was normal when flying "in" to see the
>>>>> lights about 20-30 minutes or so before landing. In contrast, he said
>>>>> there was so much dock-yard lighting in California (this would be
>>>> tramp
>>>>> steamer "liberty ship" assembly) that the west coast cities
>>>> (ship-yards)
>>>>> were visible for about 2 hours from a B-17 before he landed. He made
>>>>> that specific point.
>>>>> I understand Britain survived because of
>>>>> US agricultural production and cross Atlantic freight in 20k tonne
>>>>> liberty ships. Ditto for Russia. I have seen list of material supplied
>>>>> to Russia. USA supplied 5 million pair of army boots to Russia. That's
>>>>> a lot of leather, and a lot of feet. So US industry (and science) was
>>>>> able to focus more energy on developing technology.
>>>>> 
>>>> l
>>>> 
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