[ARC5] Blackout ; Lend Lease and ARC-5's

[Geoff]

Are you even aware of how many items in WW2 were made from aluminum?

Claiming psyops is for the pinheads around the Cambridge MA area.


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From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quikus.com>
To: "D C *Mac* Macdonald" <k2gkk at hotmail.com>
Cc: "ARC-5 Mail List" <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [ARC5] Blackout ; Lend Lease and ARC-5's


>I suspect that at least some of the rationing and things like scrap
> aluminum drives were more psyops than really useful...  designed more as
> team building (like the various 'walks for xxxxx').
>
> For example, aluminum from scrap pots and pans would be of too variale
> composition to make aircraft parts.
>
> The British were the masters of this sort of thing...  The Man that Never
> Was Enigma decrypts, virtual subs off the Falklands, and many more.
>
> YMMV,
>
> -John
>
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>>
>> During most of WW II, I lived in Oneonta, NY which
>> was the location of the central shops of the Delaware
>> and Hudson RR. I remember periodic blackout drills
>> several times a year.
>>
>> I also remember an auto trip across NY state to visit
>> grandparents in Chautauqua County in western NY state.
>> In the middle of broad daylight, we were stopped for
>> an air raid drill in the town of Addison, NY for about
>> 1/2 hour. This was and still is, a very small town with
>> nothing but what were then Erie RR tracks running through
>> it. I had always wondered why they were so worried,
>> especially when I got older and realized how unlikely
>> it would be to have a Luftwaffe air raid in the middle
>> of the day!
>>
>> I now believe it was probably 99% psychological to
>> bring civilians into "oneness" with the war effort.
>>
>> * * * * * * * * * * *
>> * 73 - Mac, K2GKK/5 *
>> * (Since 30 Nov 53) *
>> * k2gkk at hotmail.com *
>> * Oklahoma City, OK *
>> * USAF, Ret (61-81) *
>> * * * * * * * * * * *
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: w7kxb at msn.com
>>> To: vk2bcu at operamail.com; arc5 at mailman.qth.net
>>> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 23:54:19 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: [ARC5] Blackout ; Lend Lease and ARC-5's
>>>
>>>
>>> Les:Can't say what went on in California but, in Seattle WA, we had
>>> blackout drills every now and then. Air Raid Warden would let you know
>>> if he saw any light emitting from your abode.
>>> The Russian Lend Lease program ran until (about) 1949. It was a giveaway
>>> of about Nine Billion dollars worth of so called "Aid". A book titled
>>> "from Major Jordan's diaries" by Maj. George R Jordan USAAF, gives a
>>> pretty good eye opening account onwhat went thru the "Pipeline" , during
>>> his watch, between Great Falls, MT; Fairbanks, AK and Russia, during
>>> WW2. Ton's of HF/VHF gear. Maybe we can find some NIB ARC-5's from
>>> there?
>>> Cheers
>>> de Bill-w7kxb . .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > From: vk2bcu at operamail.com
>>> > To: arc5 at mailman.qth.net
>>> > Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 15:46:49 +1000
>>> > Subject: [ARC5] The comms war - VHF & HF (a bit OT).
>>> >
>>> > Hello list,
>>> > Some-one with a better knowledge of history may be able to correct me
>>> on
>>> > the following point.
>>>
>>> This point is illustrated well by my now-gone friend,
>>> > Henk Bias. He was a Dutch pilot. He made the point that the Americans
>>> > were so confident they would never be attacked that they took no
>>> effort
>>> > at black-out. He told me it was normal when flying "in" to see the
>>> > lights about 20-30 minutes or so before landing. In contrast, he said
>>> > there was so much dock-yard lighting in California (this would be
>>> tramp
>>> > steamer "liberty ship" assembly) that the west coast cities
>>> (ship-yards)
>>> > were visible for about 2 hours from a B-17 before he landed. He made
>>> > that specific point.
>>> > I understand Britain survived because of
>>> > US agricultural production and cross Atlantic freight in 20k tonne
>>> > liberty ships. Ditto for Russia. I have seen list of material supplied
>>> > to Russia. USA supplied 5 million pair of army boots to Russia. That's
>>> > a lot of leather, and a lot of feet. So US industry (and science) was
>>> > able to focus more energy on developing technology.
>>> >
>>> l
>>>
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