[Antennas] Want HF No Radials Vertical

[Bob Nielsen]

The K7LXC/N0AX report on several multiband verticals (available from
<http://www.championradio.com>) gave good marks to the Cushcraft R8,
which uses a counterpoise, but no radials (they did have a radial
installation, since they were comparing a number of verticals as well
as a 1/4-wave reference antenna).  I have a Hy-Gain AV-640, which is
similar (but without traps) at 15' and it performs better than I had
expected, including numerous EU, AF, AS, SA and OC contacts on 40-10m
at 100W or less in the past year (no radials, but I have fairly good
soil with salt water 400 ft. away).  I'm sure a LP or yagi stack will
do much better, but one can use a compromise antenna and still enjoy
the hobby.

73,
Bob N7XY
Bainbridge Island, WA
IOTA NA-065

On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 12:19:18PM -0500, Ron & Madhavi wrote:
> I have a neighbour (1km!) running one of those MFJ verticals. He can't hear
> more than half the stuff I hear on my 33' crude, homebrew wire vertical on
> 40m (6 radials). Another pal who is 5km from us both, runs an inverted vee
> dipole at about 70' and I am at most a S unit down (on some paths I am 1 s
> unit stronger). Sorry, but we have concluded that those MFJs and other no
> radials verticals are no good at all. Of course theory makes it obvious.
> 
> If ou have no space for radials I would recommend you try a vertical dipole
> (even if it is loaded).
> 
> 73,
> Ron
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Christopher Boone <CBoone@Earthlink.Net>
> To: Jerry <n6vg@lanset.com>
> Cc: <antennas@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 11:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Antennas] Want HF No Radials Vertical
> 
> 
> > If you dont want a GAP, I would suggest the MFJ (ok ok) 80-2mtr topfed
> > vertical....looks impressive anyway....why no GAP?
> >
> > Chris
> > WB5ITT
> >
> > Jerry wrote:
> >
> > > Please reply off list to n6vg@lanset.com
> > >
> > > Looking for a no radials HF vertical, not a GAP,  that covers 40 thru 10
> meters.
> > > Local pickup would be nice but let me know what you have and price
> including shipping?
> > > Thanks from Jerry in Sacramento, CA.
> >