[Vintage-Audio] DVD To CD Audio Replication

Duane Fischer, W8DBF dfischer at usol.com
Wed Jun 24 17:41:07 EDT 2009


Hi Bob,

OK, I will send you the low stuff that you can feel more then hear! And I do 
'NOT' mean feel as in a rock concert where the sheer volume vibrates your 
clothes!

One of the first times that I heard J.D. Sumner, the lowest bass singer in 
the world, SK now for about three years, it was live and in Flint's BIG IMA 
Auditorium. They used to hold the annual Shrine Circus in it. It was 1966. I 
was with two girls. Both are still friends with me to this date. One of 
them, Jan, who helped me with advanced math in college, (I did my Intensive 
in mathematics), had just returned from getting Andrea and I something to 
drink.

At that time J.D. was singing Bass for the world reknown southern gospel 
male quartet the Blackwood Bros. Jan handed me a paper cup of Coke, started 
to sit down to my left and  just about then J.D. hit one of his patented low 
notes that shook the entire building! I remember the Coke in my cup 
vibrating and sloshing over the top edges! You could feel the concrete 
floor, auditorium padded seats and everything else vibrate! Somebody quickly 
turned down the house sound system before the building turned into a pile of 
rubble! (LOL!)

You had to hear, and "feel", J.D. Sumner hit those resonant low notes 
Robert! Words simply fail to even come close to describing the sensation.

J.D. was in the Ginnis Book for hitting a sustained note of 32 Hz for at 
least fifteen years. Two other Bass singers, one hit 9 Hz and the other 15 
Hz, claimed to be lower. However, J.D. did not growl to hit that incredible 
low note, the man could actually sing down there! Besides, since the human 
hearing range on the low end is 20 Hz, who would even know that you hit a 
note of nine or fifteen Hz!

If you ever get back here Bob, I will play the song J.D. hit the 32 Hz note 
on, Blessed Assurance, if memory serves.

My close buddy, the super low Bass,  who just had vocal cord surgery for a 
Singer's Node, has seen the sound system that J.D. Sumner and his Stamps 
quartet used. The EQ was set flat! There was a frequency where J.D. hit the 
sweet spot of the auditorium Bob and you could first hear, and then feel, 
the building resonate! Simply incredible! I doubt that we will ever have 
another Bass singer quite like him!

FYI: He had two daughters, no sons! I have always wondered if their voices 
were low or normal.

Yes, I have a personally signed photo from him from 1992. I gave him a 
signed Magic promo video and he gave me the autographed photo.

Those speakers I have never heard. Maker, yes. The Boston product in action, 
maybe ... If so, it was a long time ago!

Tell me more about them, please.

I am sure I told you this: my cousin who is truly an Audio Efficinado, has a 
pair of 1971 Bozac Concert Grand speakers. (SP) Each one weighs in at 295 
pounds! Infinate baffle. They contain four 12 inch woofers, four 10 inch 
midrange/woofers and eight tweeters in a vertical column. Talk about 
monsters!

Somebody broke into his home while he was out of town, stole some Macintosh 
gear, but did not touch those hernia helpers!

He is Mr. Classical, Opera and so forth. I got him to play J.D. Sumner and 
when J.D. dropped his range from about 1500 Hz down to <50 Hz I thought that 
cousing Giles was going to wet himself! The whole house started to rock and 
roll! Not his style, but the Bozac woofers blew out little puffs of dust! My 
cousin, his wife, got to laughing. He said that he did not think that those 
speakers had ever produced notes anywhere near that low! Probably not, as he 
loves Opera and sopranos! Except for Ivan Reberoff? A Russian Opera singer 
that sings from what sounds like a soprano right down to a low Bass! 
Incredible singer. I can't understand a word, but his album of Russian Folk 
music is awesome!

Bob, now I really want to hear the Boston speakers!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob at csnsys.com>
To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 back" 
<vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] DVD To CD Audio Replication


> Go for the low ones. I can't hear the high ones any more.
>
> Speaking of that, at a recent swap meet a fellow had a pair of 10 inch
> Boston Acoustic speakers that really sounded great. These were designed by
> Kloss and were of the acoustic loaded type (no bass reflex hole). They 
> were
> built out of particle board and covered with vinyl simulated wood that was
> only about nine tenths there and that what was was very grimey and 
> scratched
> up. But the sound, oh the sound was spectacular. I wouldn't have thought
> that such nice stuff could be pushed out of a 10 inch 2-way system. He
> wanted $100 for the pair and if I didn't already have several (8) Kloss
> speakers, I would have let them follow me home. I thought of you as they
> would be perfect for a blind dude with good ears.
>
> WBob
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>
> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 back"
> <vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] DVD To CD Audio Replication
>
>
>> Thank you Mr. Wolf - I will plug in some of those fancy eight foot 24K, 
>> or
>> is it 18K, Gold plated 12 gauge audio jumpers and see what happens.
>>
>> My buddy, who hits those super low Bass notes in the 44-48 Hz range just
>> had
>> vocal cord surgery for a Singer's Node! I had one on each vocal cord from
>> all the talking I had to do on stage, not singing! I can not carry a note
>> in
>> an Ion escape proof container and keep it in resonance! The group he 
>> sings
>> with released a DVD that my Yamaha surround sound amplifier or the
>> Paradigm
>> Monitor 9S three way tuneable rear ported cabinets can not handle without
>> coughing up second harmonic wave lengths. So I decided to feed the audio
>> track from the DVD into my main system with the ceiling mounted James B.
>> Lansing Century L-100 speakers etc. You know the deal Bob, as you were
>> here
>> and checked out what the old blind dude is running.
>>
>> I know that the Century L-100's will accurately reproduce a 30 Hz note, 
>> so
>> with the Sony GX-80 ES delivering 130 watts continuous RMS per channel
>> that
>> my "Room Shake Effect" should be operational with no distortion, just a
>> lot
>> of stuff falling off shelves, out of cupboards etc. and shattering on the
>> floor! Hey! The more of that stuff that fractures its way into the local
>> landfill the less I have to dust!
>>
>> Besides, what is one less Dust Bunny to a Magician anyhow?
>>
>> Duane
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob at csnsys.com>
>> To: "Vintage home and professional audio equipment from 1975 back"
>> <vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] DVD To CD Audio Replication
>>
>>
>>> Yes. The output of the DVD player is normal line-level analog audio. 
>>> Feed
>>> this into your usual chain of recorders just like the output from you
>>> turntable preamp. Note that it is not the same as that coming from the
>>> turntable pickup which needs a lot of gain and equalization to become
>>> line-level analog audio.
>>>
>>> WBob
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>
>>> To: <vintage-audio at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:18 AM
>>> Subject: [Vintage-Audio] DVD To CD Audio Replication
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I have an OT kind of - sort of question, so feel guiltfree to press the
>>>> delete key.
>>>>
>>>> I have an audio/video DVD that I want to transfer just the audio from 
>>>> to
>>>> a
>>>> CD. Can I use the stereo audio output jacks on the Pioneer DVL-919 deck
>>>> and
>>>> connect them via patch cords to the audio input jacks on the Sony ZA5 
>>>> ES
>>>> DAT
>>>> deck? Then use my Master DAT tape to burn the CD on my Sony CDRW deck?
>>>> Or
>>>> do
>>>> I have to jump through a series of hoops from one music or wave file
>>>> format
>>>> to another?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much for your assistance.
>>>>
>>>> Duane, W8DBF
>>>>
>>>> Duane Fischer, W8DBF - WPE8CXO
>>>> E-Mail: dfischer at usol.com
>>>> Hallicrafters web site: www.w9wze.net
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