[Vintage-Audio] Re Speakers From Yesteryear

Sun Jul 14 00:55:09 2002

Be Aware....

The center channel is coming..

During the late 50s through the early 80s and awful lot of
music was mixed down or even mic'd in three channels. It was
then mastered to two channels to support the stereo LP
market. The tape folk tried for many years to get a standard
that would let the three channels be put on tape and sold,
but the LP biz was too powerful and squashed all attempts.
They wanted the commercial tape to sound like the LP. There
was no real way to get three channels on an LP. 

Now two things or really three things have happened. First
Sony owns a lot of this 3 channel music and second Sony has
developed SACD, the Super Audio Compact Disc. The third is
that 5.1-A is also capable, and Phillips also owns some of
this old music. SACD is a CD that has 6 full range channels
each capable of 10 Hz-50 KHz and 130 dB dynamic range. Dolby
5.1 has 5 full range with a lot less performance, but
enough. 

There has been at least one SACD released, that I know of,
with the original and as captured and un screwed with audio
in three full range channels and that is Miles Davis' "Kind
of Blue". I have, at the moment, two JBLs for the left and
right and an Advent 10 in the center. It is awsome sound.
The SACD/DVD/CD player is a Sony DVP NS500V which is going
for about $150 on eBay now.

So just a couple 4 incher for the center won't cut it..

WBob

"Duane Fischer, W8DBF" wrote:
> 
> The center channel in a home theater is hardly vintage. (grin)  A horn, no. This
> channel handles primarily the voice output. You need several four inch speakers
> set up to disperse the audio throughout the room at about forty degree angles.
> The four inch speaker is half way between a tweeter and a 'true' mid range
> speaker, and will handle the human voice nicely.
> 
> My set up is so blasted accurate that when the T Rex burps on Jurassic Park the
> entire house shakes! Great reproduction, but unquestionably excessive. Even my
> grandson tells me to turn it down!
> 
> Duane W8DBF
> 
> ----------
> From: R. B. Clark <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re Speakers From Yesteryear
> Date: Saturday, July 13, 2002 2:26 PM
> 
> How about a horn speaker for center channel in a home theatre setup
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 11:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vintage-Audio] Re Speakers From Yesteryear
> 
> > >From a stereo/separation/soundstage point of view, horns
> > suck. The path length and therefore the phase delay is
> > different for every frequency. This messes with the sound
> > stage. Great mono though. Depends on just what is important
> > to you.
> >
> > Wbob
> >
> > JM/CO wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a pair of Electrovoice "Regency" folded horn enclosures that I
> bought
> > > used in 1969. Somewhere in the mid-1970s I acquired a pair of Tannoy
> > > "silver" 15 inch drivers. I still use this system, and am still very
> happy
> > > with it. Extremely efficient, and great bass. I use a modern pair of
> ribbon
> > > tweeters in small enclosures sitting on top, as none of the old speaker
> > > designs had particularly good high end. I run this rig off of four
> channels
> > > of McIntosh tube amplifiers which are fed by an electronic crossover
> unit
> > > set to 8Khz.
> > > Chuck N1LNH
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Duane Fischer, W8DBF <[email protected]>
> > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:52 PM
> > > Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Re Speakers From Yesteryear
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Now let's get serious and talk about speakers. I mean 'REAL' speakers
> from
> > > the
> > > >fifties, sixties and seventies. The high quality ones with five+ pound
> > > magnets
> > > >and heavy die cast frames. What did you use for speakers? If you could
> have
> > > >afforded them back tehn, what would you have used and why?
> > > >
> > > >Anyone use folded horn designs? True bass reflex?
> > > >
> > > >What was the numero uno (number one) type of speakers for the average
> > > stereo
> > > >devotee then? J.B. Lansing? Electrovoice? Acoustic Research? Or?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >Duane Fischer, W8DBF
> > > >
> > > >
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