[Vintage-Audio] Modern Speaker For Vintage System?

Thu Aug 15 16:39:00 2002

I have heard them, the produce bass alright, but it is noise, not true sound.
they are designed to produce bass, not true frequency response.	

My stereo system and my surround sound system are two different systems. I
design a system to do one thing well, not try to cover many bases. Not
economical necessarily, but I take my audio seriously.

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From: Salmons, Michael <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Vintage-Audio] Modern Speaker For Vintage System?
Date: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:25 AM

Duane,

I know I am in danger of sounding naive, but what are you goals with this three
way system? Do you want lifelike reproduction of your favorite musical
performances (judging from your past posts, this is what I suspect), or do you
want to blister the wall paint with your top gun dvd? 

If the answer is the former.. are you sure you need a fifteen inch driver? You
would know what you want better than anybody, but... I've heard pretty stunning
bass come from the right small speaker placed correctly in a room. Once I owned
(now the ex-wife has 'em) a pair of Paradigm Phantoms, eight inch, two-way
design in a largish-bookshelf-sized vented enclosure, run by a mid-seventies
Yamaha solid state (30wpc) exhibiting all of the "good" properties of modern
hifi (I'm a vintage nut, obviously, so I'm pretty picky about my modern hifi):
midrange is warm for a modern speaker; frequency response is not lacking in any
areas; no hint of the boxes (something I hate about badly made small speakers!);
no bloom in the high bass/low midrange); very dynamic, quick response time,
solid soundstage image. And they rocked the house, if that's a concern. 

Of course, I simply can't debate the idea that larger enclosures usually mean
better low bass. Especially if you have a low-watt tube amp. But I can tell you
the Phantoms (and their little brothers, the Titans) both love my 14-watt eico
amp, providing downright generous amounts of low end. But I would love to hear
that amp through some vintage altecs or EVs. I'm sure I would be blown away.

There are some high-efficiency, large driver speakers discussed on the triode
page (www.triode.com)- a although this site appears to be down at the moment- 
and a list of recommended speakers for the Zen Triode amp
http://www.decware.com/zspeakers.htm- but with single-ended triodes, we're
talking 4 watts per. 35 is really a pretty hefty amount of power. The speakers
they recommend might be overkill.

Michael Salmons

-----Original Message-----
From: Duane Fischer, W8DBF [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Vintage-Audio] Modern Speaker For Vintage System?

Alright my fellow wizards of wires, if you had to purchase a present day
three-way system with fifteen inch woofer that could be adequately driven by a
vintage amp delivering 35 watts per channel RMS, what would it be? And why?     

Thanks. 	

Duane W8DBF	

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