[TVARC] TVARC Digest, Vol 107, Issue 12
Alan Fletcher - K8AXF
k8axf at alanfletcher.org
Thu Jan 8 16:58:19 EST 2026
Don't call 81. Instead open a ticket at https://sunshine811.com/
I did for my flagpole and it was done in 48 hours.
Regards,
Alan
k8axf
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2026 18:05:48 +0000
>From: Kym <kintbus at protonmail.com>
>To: "Philiplester at philiplester.com" <philiplester at philiplester.com>
>Cc: TVARC <tvarc at mailman.qth.net>
>Subject: Re: [TVARC] Antenna
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>Hmm. Not sure about the theory that hiring someone will avoid that scenario.
>
>Every time the utility company digs on our street, they take out multiple houses Internet connection severing our wires.
>
>But then again, it becomes their problem to fix not yours. ???
>
>Kym Lenkus - KQ4ZOA
>Email: kintbus at protonmail.com cell : 208-261-1070
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>On Thursday, 01/08/26 at 12:59 Philiplester--- via TVARC <tvarc at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>
>> I want it done right. If I did it I would cause a blackout of all of florida for a month.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> From: Jim Murray <jmurray946 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2026 11:57 AM
>> To: Philiplester at philiplester.com <philiplester at philiplester.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TVARC] Antenna
>>
>> Just dig slowly, and carefully. If you hit something, move over a bit. Worked for me.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 9:25?AM Philiplester--- via TVARC <tvarc at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I will invoke The Villages Architectural Review Committee?s (ARC) once I decide on where to put the flag pole. I have spoken to 811 a few times and they are unable to help with any information. They just pass the request on to the utilities. I may just hire someone to install the antenna. Let them worry about all of this stuff
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> From: Anthony Hackenberg <tonyhackenberg at icloud.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2026 8:49 PM
>>> To: TVARC <tvarc at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Cc: Philiplester at philiplester.com <philiplester at philiplester.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [TVARC] Antenna
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yes, there are properties in The Villages with ?utility? lines running through their back yards.
>>> For example, my backyard has several communications lines running through it (East to West).
>>>
>>> Yes, you must call the 811 (Sunshine 811) BEFORE you dig to get the utility lines marked.
>>>
>>> Finally, you must invoke The Villages Architectural Review Committee?s (ARC) process to be sure your antenna location does not violate (be inside) any public easements. You?d be amazed how many easements are running across our properties.
>>>
>>> Here?s how ewe get away with flagpole antennas despite The Villages rules against most antennas/towers. Many moons ago, the US Supreme Court said you have a right to display the flag. Later, the Florida Legislature went further and said you have the right to display it on a flagpole regardless of HOA-like rules. But a careful reading of the Florida statute reveals a height limitation and a prohibition against putting the flagpole inside an easement. This, it?s CRITICAL that you submit an application (available online) to that ARC to insure your flagpole fully complies with that statue.
>>>
>>> There used to be great reference articles on the club?s website (TVARC) covering some of these intricacies of installing a flagpole antenna on The Villages. I don?t know if they are still accessible (or even exist anymore).
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Tony/K4QR
>>>
>>>> On Jan 7, 2026, at 20:24, joe signorelli via TVARC <tvarc at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ?
>>>> AI Overview
>>>> [A5vERRIeVuB6AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC.png]
>>>> [A2mgMb6jySURAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC.png]
>>>> [sz9X5VYkQtjuD765b697emPAnspsjlO3TDVPerhYmRxqDcSBsg0XfD0rdkQRTWVSpugOrQSjQfqG2FBnIaWmKalUe7tU3Bbfyu0qztfykvgL792ovFpJXdMts5EK+RmILezdDArj0wEHeAwwZivgWCTftO4h7kPC3TBKLnV80A+G9Q9qDIWQQBAA6AEqCXV3xDAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC.png]
>>>> +4
>>>>
>>>> When digging in Sumter or Lake County, Florida, you must call 811 (Sunshine 811) at least two full business days before starting any excavation project. When I call 811 for my antenna, they identified areas in the front, rear and between houses. The lightening rod installation outfit also called them before installation. I took photos and made measurements for future reference. Joe. AB3CR
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 7, 2026, at 7:55?PM, Philiplester--- via TVARC <tvarc at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ?
>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a grey line flag pol antenna. Dont know if that makes a difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Ed Deichler <k2te.1nh at gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2026 7:47 PM
>>>>> To: Philiplester at philiplester.com <philiplester at philiplester.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [TVARC] Antenna
>>>>>
>>>>> I installed my 6BTV inside a PVC flagpole on the corner of the house. I dug up an old bush for the hole. AFIK, the utilities came in from the street in the front yard. My neighbor behind me lives on a cul-de-sac and her utilities come off the street as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 de Ed
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 12:42?AM Philiplester--- via TVARC <tvarc at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am trying to get all the utilities companies oujt to at my house to show me where I may drig to install my flag pole antenna. Every house I have ever owned had all the utilities in the front lawn, but I understand it maybe different here in the villages. For you that have put in a flag pole antenna were there untilities in the back yard?
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2026 19:23:36 +0000
>From: "Philiplester at philiplester.com" <philiplester at philiplester.com>
>To: GEORGE RUTKOSKIE <w4gormail at comcast.net>, TVARC
> <tvarc at mailman.qth.net>
>Subject: Re: [TVARC] Antenna
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>I have called 811 and they really dont seem to understand who does what. I was told they just send the request out to the providers.
>________________________________
>From: GEORGE RUTKOSKIE <w4gormail at comcast.net>
>Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2026 1:54 PM
>To: Philiplester at philiplester.com <philiplester at philiplester.com>
>Subject: Re: [TVARC] Antenna
>
>The Number you call is 811. I was in the utility construction and you need to do this. If you damage a utility line you are responsible. Damaged lines can be very costly especially if it is a
>fiber optic cable. The service is free.
>73
>W4GOR
>Geroger
>On 01/08/2026 12:58 PM EST Philiplester--- via TVARC <tvarc at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>
>
>I want it done right. If I did it I would cause a blackout of all of florida for a month.
>
>________________________________
>From: Jim Murray <jmurray946 at gmail.com>
>Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2026 11:57 AM
>To: Philiplester at philiplester.com <philiplester at philiplester.com>
>Subject: Re: [TVARC] Antenna
>
>Just dig slowly, and carefully. If you hit something, move over a bit. Worked for me.
>
>On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 9:25?AM Philiplester--- via TVARC <tvarc at mailman.qth.net<mailto:tvarc at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:
>Yes, I will invoke The Villages Architectural Review Committee?s (ARC) once I decide on where to put the flag pole. I have spoken to 811 a few times and they are unable to help with any information. They just pass the request on to the utilities. I may just hire someone to install the antenna. Let them worry about all of this stuff
>
>________________________________
>From: Anthony Hackenberg <tonyhackenberg at icloud.com<mailto:tonyhackenberg at icloud.com>>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2026 8:49 PM
>To: TVARC <tvarc at mailman.qth.net<mailto:tvarc at mailman.qth.net>>
>Cc: Philiplester at philiplester.com<mailto:Philiplester at philiplester.com> <philiplester at philiplester.com<mailto:philiplester at philiplester.com>>
>Subject: Re: [TVARC] Antenna
>
>Hi,
>
>Yes, there are properties in The Villages with ?utility? lines running through their back yards.
>For example, my backyard has several communications lines running through it (East to West).
>
>Yes, you must call the 811 (Sunshine 811) BEFORE you dig to get the utility lines marked.
>
>Finally, you must invoke The Villages Architectural Review Committee?s (ARC) process to be sure your antenna location does not violate (be inside) any public easements. You?d be amazed how many easements are running across our properties.
>
>Here?s how ewe get away with flagpole antennas despite The Villages rules against most antennas/towers. Many moons ago, the US Supreme Court said you have a right to display the flag. Later, the Florida Legislature went further and said you have the right to display it on a flagpole regardless of HOA-like rules. But a careful reading of the Florida statute reveals a height limitation and a prohibition against putting the flagpole inside an easement. This, it?s CRITICAL that you submit an application (available online) to that ARC to insure your flagpole fully complies with that statue.
>
>There used to be great reference articles on the club?s website (TVARC) covering some of these intricacies of installing a flagpole antenna on The Villages. I don?t know if they are still accessible (or even exist anymore).
>
>73,
>Tony/K4QR
>
>
>On Jan 7, 2026, at 20:24, joe signorelli via TVARC <tvarc at mailman.qth.net<mailto:tvarc at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:
>
>
>AI Overview
>[A5vERRIeVuB6AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC.png]
>[A2mgMb6jySURAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC.png]
>[sz9X5VYkQtjuD765b697emPAnspsjlO3TDVPerhYmRxqDcSBsg0XfD0rdkQRTWVSpugOrQSjQfqG2FBnIaWmKalUe7tU3Bbfyu0qztfykvgL792ovFpJXdMts5EK+RmILezdDArj0wEHeAwwZivgWCTftO4h7kPC3TBKLnV80A+G9Q9qDIWQQBAA6AEqCXV3xDAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC.png]
>+4
>
>When digging in Sumter or Lake County, Florida, you must call 811 (Sunshine 811) at least two full business days before starting any excavation project. When I call 811 for my antenna, they identified areas in the front, rear and between houses. The lightening rod installation outfit also called them before installation. I took photos and made measurements for future reference. Joe. AB3CR
>
>
>On Jan 7, 2026, at 7:55?PM, Philiplester--- via TVARC <tvarc at mailman.qth.net<mailto:tvarc at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:
>
>
>Ed,
>
>I have a grey line flag pol antenna. Dont know if that makes a difference.
>
>________________________________
>From: Ed Deichler <k2te.1nh at gmail.com<mailto:k2te.1nh at gmail.com>>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2026 7:47 PM
>To: Philiplester at philiplester.com<mailto:Philiplester at philiplester.com> <philiplester at philiplester.com<mailto:philiplester at philiplester.com>>
>Subject: Re: [TVARC] Antenna
>
>I installed my 6BTV inside a PVC flagpole on the corner of the house. I dug up an old bush for the hole. AFIK, the utilities came in from the street in the front yard. My neighbor behind me lives on a cul-de-sac and her utilities come off the street as well.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>73 de Ed
>
>On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 12:42?AM Philiplester--- via TVARC <tvarc at mailman.qth.net<mailto:tvarc at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>
>I am trying to get all the utilities companies oujt to at my house to show me where I may drig to install my flag pole antenna. Every house I have ever owned had all the utilities in the front lawn, but I understand it maybe different here in the villages. For you that have put in a flag pole antenna were there untilities in the back yard?
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