[TVARC] Today’s Question

[John Ellis]

No argument about that Frank, but message
4 can be toggled between RRR and RR73.
RR73 by definition should be only used when
the sending station is confident that his/her
report has been received okay and that no
repetitions will be required.

RR73 *presumes *a good contact but does not
*confirm* it. So you are correct, it can lead to bad
logging.

73,
J


On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 3:25 PM Frank M <phrankxm at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think something is missing here. One point I was trying to make is to
> show that logging the QSO without a confirmation from the other party leads
> to errors in LoTW, invalid QSO in eQSL etc.
> often, in contrasting, the run station sends a confirmation to the other
> station but never really knows if it was received and therefore, it could
> be missing in the other station log!!
> It is a possible explanation for “errors” in confirmations and contest
> checking.
>
> Frank KA1AF
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 8, 2019, at 11:12 AM, John Ellis <john.np2b at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Frank et. al.
>
> It is up to the other station to do his own logging.
> If he chooses not to hang around for a 73, that's
> his choice and there is nothing you can do about
> it. The important thing for you is that you copied
> his call and your report correctly.
>
> I think the RR73 in place of a regular 73 means
> he has received your report and he really doesn't
> care if you confirm his report back to him or not
> and/or he is reasonably confident that you have
> received his report and that no repetitions will be
> necessary.
>
> JMHO,
> 73,
> J
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 1:55 PM Frank M <phrankxm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What is a valid contact?
>> According to the ARRL, you must not only exchange calls but also must
>> exchange signal reports. A 73 is not required. (For confirmation you need
>> time, date and freq).
>> Issue: FT-8 contacts have the auto log window pop up when you send a 73.
>> (Either RR73 or 73).
>> But there are times when the other station does not send a 73 (either by
>> choice or band change). You received his confirmation of your report to
>> him, but you have not received a confirmation that he received yours!!
>> Most people enter the contact in the log when the window comes up. This
>> is a cause for “not in log” issues with online loggers and errors in LoTW.
>> The question, is it a contact or not?
>> My position: you got all the information for a valid contact. You just
>> did not get a confirmation from the other station. Enter it in your log! In
>> many cases, you just did not receive his 73 or he chose not to send it.
>> Comments???
>>
>> Frank KA1AF
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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