[TrunkCom] while we are on the subject of encryption

[Jeff Kenyon]

That was the last thing I heard.  I don't know if they'll ever work with 
Uniden or anyone for ProVoice though.  It seems as though there are more 
ProVoice systems coming all the time.  Do you all think that this eventually 
will evolve into OpenSky?
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From: "Arthur-Bryan E. Phelps" <aphelps at enter.net>
To: "'Discussion of Monitoring Trunk Radio Systems'" 
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Subject: RE: [TrunkCom] while we are on the subject of encryption


> The original contract with the Commonwealth did include a provision for
> registered "scanners" - probably radios with the transmitting circuitry
> disabled - for use by LE, news media, etc.  I do not know if it would be
> released to an individual. The unit ID would be displayed on a console in
> the dispatch center when the scanner was powered up and could be disabled 
> at
> will if the PSP did not want sensitive information disclosed. The last I
> heard, was that M/A Com OpenSky was "looking" to form a partnership with a
> company, e.g. Uniden to make and license a scanner.  So, if that is true, 
> it
> negates the initial option.
>
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> Scott Berringer
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 4:59 PM
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> Subject: Re: [TrunkCom] while we are on the subject of encryption
>
> There has been talk forever about an OpenSky 'receiver' being manufactured
> by MA/COM for being able to monitor the Pennsylvania system. However, that
> has never come to fruit. I don't think it ever will. Honestly, I don't 
> even
> think the OpenSky systems will survive.
> Especially not with everyone trying to get everything P-25 compliant.
>
> IMHO, Encryption should ONLY be used for sensitive ops (VICE, NARCS, SWAT,
> etc...) not for day to day ops. If you need to encrypt your car-to-car
> channels, you got issues. Also, encryption should only be available for 
> law
> enforcement and possibly arson investigators. But, only on an as-needed
> basis for sensitive ops.
>
> There is one city in Ohio that comes to mind that everyone is always 
> whining
> about. Canton, Ohio PD. They have all of their main PD talkgroups 
> encrypted
> in addition to them being P-25 digital modulation.
> With encryption for routine operations, if you give out a BOLO, the 
> citizens
> can't lend an additional set of eyes/ears because they don't know that the
> BOLO has been issued. Some people (system administrators) have been 
> suckered
> by smooth talking sales reps (from Motorola and
> MA/COM) in to thinking that they NEED full-time encryption. Those sales 
> reps
> are the ones that show up for a sales meeting in a Mercedes, or a Hummer
> because they get paid WAY TOO MUCH $$$$$$$$.
>
>
>
> Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone, while we are on the subject of encryption in the few
>> rumors I have seen on the net about a possible OpenSky scanner coming
>> out one thing that was mentioned was encryption there, and the fact
>> that the radio would be able to be disabled if need be.  These threads
>> have been here and there, but I would imagine anything OpenSky would
>> be a long ways out, and I know that in PA and Oakland County, Michigan
>> we have to get our systems working first!
>>
>>
>>
>>
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