[TrunkCom] RE: TrunkCom Digest, Vol 18, Issue 10

Wed Oct 19 19:46:54 EDT 2005

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: phone patch and I-calls (rob.berezowski at sasktel.sk.ca)
   2. Re: phone patch and I-calls (Jeff Kenyon)
   3. Re: TrunkCom Digest, Vol 18, Issue 9 (ColsM4BBW at aol.com)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:17:14 -0600
From: rob.berezowski at sasktel.sk.ca
Subject: Re: [TrunkCom] phone patch and I-calls
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The .0 and 700000 labels are only used in the BC250D scanner. It 
designates a wild card for Radio ID to monitor Individual Calls. Phone 
patches and private calls between two individual radios are broadcast on 
the trunked system as Individual Calls. An Individual Call is a voice 
conversation intended for one radio only, and not a group. On a trunked 
system, if a radio sees an Individual Call, and the radio id matches its 
own radio id, then the radio will respond and tune to the voice channel. 

On the BC250D (and other Uniden scanners), the .0 and 700000 codes tell 
the scanner that the user wishes to listen to Individual Calls being sent 
to any radio id. Therefore, the scanner will tune to the voice channel 
regardless of which radio id is involved in the Individual Call. 

The level of usage of phone patches varies widely among systems, and 
administrator rules. There is wide use of phone patches on the EDACS and 
Motorola systems I monitor. In fact, they even allow personal phone calls, 
which means a lot more phone calls. On other systems in other cities, I've 
seen systems with absolutely no phone patches, and some systems that have 
phone patch capability but the option is seldom or never used.

Rob

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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:06:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeff Kenyon <at649 at tcnet.org>
Subject: [TrunkCom] phone patch and I-calls
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Hi everyone, I konw taht with the BC250D by entering in TG 700000 on a
Motorola trunked system and .0 with EDACS you can monitor I-calls and
track them, but I also noticed that this is what many systems assign for
phone patch calls, and it is really surprising in terms of how many people
are authorized to have phone patch access on many systems, but I was just
wondering in terms of EDACS is .0 what gets assigned for phone patch calls
on those systems?

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:15:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeff Kenyon <at649 at tcnet.org>
Subject: Re: [TrunkCom] phone patch and I-calls
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ight, and I am surprised at the number of users who get this access.  On
our system in Grosse Pointe we were trained to do I-calls or in our case
private calls, but after a lengthy discussion we decided that it would b
best to not let anyone have that ability since people would just be
talking from person to person, and if we had phone patch capabilities i
doubt that they would be given out as freely on our system as they are on
others, and the Motorola rep who I knew who no longer is with the company
actually discourages that the private call and phone patch calls be given
to everyone because of over useage, but with a trunked system you always
have that paper trail.

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 rob.berezowski at sasktel.sk.ca wrote:

> The .0 and 700000 labels are only used in the BC250D scanner. It
> designates a wild card for Radio ID to monitor Individual Calls. Phone
> patches and private calls between two individual radios are broadcast on
> the trunked system as Individual Calls. An Individual Call is a voice
> conversation intended for one radio only, and not a group. On a trunked
> system, if a radio sees an Individual Call, and the radio id matches its
> own radio id, then the radio will respond and tune to the voice channel.
>
> On the BC250D (and other Uniden scanners), the .0 and 700000 codes tell
> the scanner that the user wishes to listen to Individual Calls being sent
> to any radio id. Therefore, the scanner will tune to the voice channel
> regardless of which radio id is involved in the Individual Call.
>
> The level of usage of phone patches varies widely among systems, and
> administrator rules. There is wide use of phone patches on the EDACS and
> Motorola systems I monitor. In fact, they even allow personal phone calls,
> which means a lot more phone calls. On other systems in other cities, I've
> seen systems with absolutely no phone patches, and some systems that have
> phone patch capability but the option is seldom or never used.
>
> Rob
>
>
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>
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:06:30 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jeff Kenyon <at649 at tcnet.org>
> Subject: [TrunkCom] phone patch and I-calls
> To: trunkcom at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0510122004400.20131 at hendryx.tcnet.org>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Hi everyone, I konw taht with the BC250D by entering in TG 700000 on a
> Motorola trunked system and .0 with EDACS you can monitor I-calls and
> track them, but I also noticed that this is what many systems assign for
> phone patch calls, and it is really surprising in terms of how many people
> are authorized to have phone patch access on many systems, but I was just
> wondering in terms of EDACS is .0 what gets assigned for phone patch calls
> on those systems?
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:43:12 EDT
From: ColsM4BBW at aol.com
Subject: [TrunkCom] Re: TrunkCom Digest, Vol 18, Issue 9
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In a message dated 10/13/05 4:10:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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Message:  1
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:06:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeff Kenyon  <at649 at tcnet.org>
Subject: [TrunkCom] phone patch and I-calls
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Hi everyone, I konw taht with the BC250D  by entering in TG 700000 on a
Motorola trunked system and .0 with EDACS you  can monitor I-calls and
track them, but I also noticed that this is what  many systems assign for
phone patch calls, and it is really surprising in  terms of how many people
are authorized to have phone patch access on many  systems, but I was just
wondering in terms of EDACS is .0 what gets  assigned for phone patch calls
on those  systems?

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