[TrunkCom] BC250D Release Date

[Norm]

Actually the units for Canada come through Uniden America, which means they
will come through Long Beach as well.

Norm
----- Original Message -----
From: <rsh@idirect.com>
To: <trunkcom@mailman.qth.net>
Cc: "Brian J Cathcart" <scannerdude@juno.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TrunkCom] BC250D Release Date


> On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 11:02:29 -0500, Brian J Cathcart wrote:
>
> >First let me say I understand the anticipation of this scanner.  I've got
> >7 digital systems in South Florida I will be able to monitor with the new
> >scanner, so I want it badly too.  But I'm sick of seeing people slam
> >Uniden with wild speculations as to why it's delayed.
>
> Agreed in full. [The Ontario Provincial Police have gone digital,
encrypted
> and trunked at a VHF frequency, in the 142MHz band space.]  The radios
will
> be out later in Canada since, while they have FCC approvals, they do not
yet
> have IC TAC approval.  Sometime in 2003 is the best we in Canada can get
> from Canadian retailers.  The card too will need a separate TAC and it is
a
> question as to whether or not IC will even issue one at this time.
>
> Also, IC is saying that because the radios are digital capable, EACH unit
> must be licensed.  They have yet to promulgate the rules for the license,
> too.  This will also delay it.
>
> Analogue scanners are exempt from licensing, but the regs are quite strict
> on Digital.  Basically when they were written 6 years ago the philosphy
was
> 'thou shalt NOT have a digital capable scanner, ever...'
>
> >Why would you assume the worst in Uniden in their release date?  First,
> >what makes you think it doesn't "bother" Uniden to have the scanner out
> >in time for Christmas?  Do you really believe the company executives are
> >sitting around saying "you know, let's screw ourselves out of Christmas
> >profits and delay the release of this scanner".  Or do you think they
> >have warehouses full of the new scanners and they are just sitting on
> >them?  Get real!
>
> I believe some HAVE been sold in the US. Remember too that Uniden makes
> around 90000 scanners each year, and that is for distribution around the
> world, and covers ALL of the various flavours that they make.  They have
to
> be different for Europe, Australia, New Zealand, the US and, in theory,
for
> other nations too.  That means that the US will only get SOME of them, and
> has to take its turn.  The US does NOT get the entire production of
> scanners, nor should it.  That would be unfair to the rest of us...
>
> >Second, did you stop to think that there were delays beyond their
> >control?
>
> >Like the west coast shipping shutdown?
> Applied to the US only, but impacts all of the Americas because all of the
> Americas are forced to accept the US product by Uniden America in the US.
>
>
> >Increased security delays?
> Not aware of any - since they would be set up internally in the US and
would
> not apply elsewhere in the world.  For example, I suspect Israel, Lebanon,
> Iraq and Iran, to pick four countries [not at random]  have NO security
> delays on these scanners.
>
> >Producation machine broken?  etc etc  There can be any number of
> >reasons.  To dismiss the delay as Uniden not caring about the release
> >date is rediculous.  Uniden is in this to make money and they are well
> >aware that they need to get this scanner out as soon as possible,
> >especially for Christmas.
>
> At least in the US, where Xmas is the biggest marketing season.  In other
> parts of the world, other dates are more their target...  It depends on
the
> local religion(s) and customs.
>
> >Third, setting a "later" release date keeps customers who are hounding
> >Uniden from being disappointed if there is another delay.  Think about it
> >- if Uniden says "December" then gets delayed to January you're going to
> >jump all over them for saying "December".  If they say "January" and they
> >come out in December you're going to say it's a suprise tactic.  Damned
> >if you do, Damned if you don't is what you're putting Uniden into.
>
> True, and this is a case of all of the above factors being in play.
> Government approvals are NOT coming all that quickly around the world,
> production problems have been in play, and shipping problems definitely
have
> been in play.  The price has also been an issue which MAY result in
> purchases around the world being distorted.
>
> >The scanners are made and being made.  Uniden is doing their best to get
> >them out.  They will be out.  There is big demand for them (like there
> >was for the 245xlt and 780xlt when they first came out) so you'll see the
> >first batches sell quickly.  You will gets yours - it might be december,
> >it might be January, the fact is you'll get it.
>
> It might not be for 6 months, too, if enough are ordered by government
units
> since they will mass order and block the rest of us if they think they
need
> to.  If production is 90000 per year, that is about 7,500 per month for
the
> world as a whole.  If we then take the percentage of the world's
population
> that lives in the US, the US is entitled to around 300 per month.  That
> would result in a demand problem <grin>...  The question for us OUTSIDE
the
> US is not only when we can get them, but when we will be able to get the
> UBC250D version, since we do NOT need the FCC cell phone frequency block.
>
> For what it is worth...
>
> RSH
>
>
> R.S. (Bob) Heuman       -       Toronto, ON, Canada
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