[TheForge] Fwd: "Modeling Dough"

[Bruce .]

The reason I don't use plasticine clay more is because, in my experience,
it doesn't behave like hot iron.  It tends to crack and split.

What it does allow is to explore "how to get there from here".

My last use of it was to develop an idea I had, based upon the
demonstration I saw many years ago of turning 2" pipe into an "apple."
Unfortunately, a 2" pipe made of clay behaves in no way similar to a steel
pipe.  I finally had some success using a solid piece of clay, and learned
something from that. But that wasn't what I'd wanted to do.  Lacking a
power hammer, I have no intention of working with 2" round stock.  The idea
might still work using 2" steel pipe, but I've yet to try that.

Bruce
NJ


On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 3:33 AM jerry Frost <akfrosty at mtaonline.net> wrote:

> You can only do gross pattern weld development with modeling clay. Roll
> high
> contrast colors thin to make the billet and forget about doing a lot of
> folding, it'll homogenize in a couple. Think of it like a low res sketch of
> the pattern. It's good for setting you on the right road, it won't take you
> home.
>
> I've found if you use hard and chill it, it'll behave more like hot steel
> modeling complex (fiddly) pieces.
>
> I've never messed with other clays, doughs, etc. as forge models but its a
> good way to rough map a new process or illustrate what forging means to new
> folk.
>
> Frosty The Lucky.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Spencer
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 8:24 PM
> To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [TheForge] Re: Fwd: "Modeling Dough"
>
>
> > If I understand it correctly, modeling clay is dry clay mixed with oil.
>
> I it was either Dimitri Gerakaris or Chris Ray who put me onto using
> plasticine.  The art stores in Halifax looked at me as if I had two heads
> when I asked for it.  (People at the NS Art College must order from away or
> do without.  Huh.)
>
> At a/the big art store in Boston, they said, "Yes, Sir.  Hard, medium or
> soft?"  What they had was made in Italy.  I've used it in demos when
> touting
> the plasticity of iron in the smith's hands or previewing a lengthy process
> such as making a dragon head.  But I've found it most useful to work out a
> difficult shape, such as a seed pod or animal/beast head, to have a clearer
> idea of where I'm going with the metal.
>
> Seems to last forever although the surface may become hardened and have to
> be scraped off of a lump stored for several years.
>
> I did once try "pattern-welded plasticine" with multicolored kiddie stuff.
> It didn't really behave the same way welded metals do.
>
> FWIW,
> - Mike
>
> --
> Michael Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada       .~.
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> TheForge mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/theforge
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:TheForge at mailman.qth.net
>
> TheForge mail list group photo site is
> http://www.shutterfly.com
> Login: blacksmithblacksmith at hotmail.com
> Password: anvil
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>