[TheForge] how do blacksmithing and technology work together?

[J. Petrila]

Terry you have to much time on tour hands.. you must be into robotics..

If you personally work outside the norm and do it in an interesting way in
a teaching position you will naturally create an interest for/in inquiring
minds..

It's the parents job to promote out of the box thinking and a teacher's job
not to hinder it and to help explore should the students question arises
and it's within the context or close to what is being studied.. not
detracting from the lesson but adding to it..

In my area of Massachusetts in the woods or sticks as it's called  self
exploration of lands were encouraged..

Today kids are not told what to do but articulated with and pushed towards
group activities instead of exploration..

I knew at 4 years old if you played with fire you could get burnt, I also
knew that a knife was sharp and if used wrongly you could be cut..

Both things were explored and I became intement with both..   understanding
the difference between potential and incurrance became well known to myself
and by age 8 started forging on my own with no supervision..

Ok, so all along as a teacher having lived and learned outside the
conventional norms I  pass on this to students...   intellectually telling
someone something completely lacks the sensation and tactile experience..

This process is what I see unfolding vs using ones hands today to do good
clean blacksmithed forgings..

Anybody can forge anything in short order with just a few lessons..  but
how good and clean and properly forged is it?

A skilled blacksmith can educate or push a students limits much farther
than a newb or middley skilled Smith as the higher skilled Smith can work
faster, cleaner, and can do more with less and even put together items from
others stand points which are not even possible..

On Oct 21, 2017 10:30 AM, "terry l. ridder" <terrylr at blauedonau.com> wrote:

> hello;
>
> Basically, the question is  than:
>
> Is the forged table or sculpture, a product of the blacksmith's and/or
> metalsmith's, physical abilities and "mind's eye" sufficient that it
> does not need nor require additional technology?
>
> I think that it is sufficient.
>
> I think to candlestick holders I made several years ago were my best
> work. that they were sufficient. they required no additional technology.
>
> That does not mean that the general public do.
>
> My purpose would be to educate and to instill the interest in Science,
> Technology, Engineering and Math (STEM) in students. I would rather this
> was Science, Technology, Engineering, Arts and Math (STEAM).
>
> To bring out their creativity. To let them know that it is okay to color
> outside the lines. That the sky may be purple and the grass pink. That
> their art does not have to look like the other students art.
>
> To interest the young students to learn to think "outside" the box.
> Once they learn how to program and setup a simple Arduino circuit to
> turn on 1 meter strip of 60 RGB LEDs, to impart that is appropriate to
> ask "What else can I make this do?" Expand the circuit to cycle the LEDs
> through the color cube? Expand the circuit to display a still color
> photograph? Expand the circuit to be a crude Jumbo Tron?
>
> working with technology is seen as being "safe".
> blacksmithing and/or metalworking are inherently dangerous.
> blacksmithing and/or metalworking are to be "viewed" from a far but not
> participated in. Blacksmithing and metalworking are viewed as "fair
> weather" activities. Backyard metal casting is not something most people
> would do in the winter. Pouring liquid aluminum with snow on the ground
> and snow falling is not the safest activity.
>
> The purpose of the 3D router/engraver/carver was to allow, as Jerry
> would say, the inner beauty of the tree to show. To show the beauty of
> the wood instead of turning it into firewood.
>
> i am not a good artist. I can program complicated 3D models in POVRAY.
> I can take a photograph and turn it into a 3D carving in wood.
>
> the young students today do not want to make shepard hooks, S-hooks, pot
> holders, fireplace pokers. they want robotics. they want entertainment.
>
> On Sat, 21 Oct 2017, J. Petrila wrote:
>
> Well you could develop a cnc robotic controller to work both with a power
>> hammer and a handler unit.. Question becomes why other than " Because I
>> can"..
>>
>> Seems like it would be a waste of time unless you are producing a ton of
>> one item..  The idea of autonomic forgings when you refer to blacksmithing
>> is rather out there since I am the blacksmith and i use both my brains and
>> bronze to accomplish the desired effect.
>>
>> So if you are merely trying to do it for a demonstration of your
>> braininess
>> at a technical show it would make sense..  But what would be the true
>> purpose.. ????
>>
>> JLP Services Inc
>>
>>
> --
> terry l. ridder ><>
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