[TheForge] mig welding

terry l. ridder terrylr at blauedonau.com
Sat Jul 15 20:50:17 EDT 2017


hello;

I use a millermatic 185. i have only used shield gas. my friend, Paul,
runs dual shield all the time. he repairs bobcat skid loaders. he rents
them out and they come back severely abused.

Perhaps if i had more time to experiement i would try 0.035 dual
shield. I would have to experiement with it for a while to get the hang
of it.

the millermatic 185 has served me well. never had an issue with it.


On Sat, 15 Jul 2017, J. Petrila wrote:

> I use a MIG all the time outdoors and the only time I have any real
> problems is when I have the gun to far away from the puddle,  or a really
> strong breeze 5mph or more. In this case I shorten the stickout and it does
> well. Maybe once a year I use flux core..
>
> I don't really like regular flux core.. While it offers some advantages
> with a lighter duty machine as it has a little higher heat input for a
> given setting, Its messy and if I'm going to weld 1/8" and over with mig I
> see no reason to use it.
>
>
>   - Now Dual shield on the other hand is awesome for those jobs that need
>   the extra cleaning or if the weld is a big one and it's outside and dirty.
>   Dual shield welds really well and cleans up a lot of the junk that might
>   get into the puddle but runs just about like solid wire.. The flux flakes
>   off like 7018 and I keep 0.045 in stock..
>
> I also keep 0.030 and 0.035 in 44lbs spools and my go to is S70-6 and
> lincoln wire  L56 seems to work very well..
>
> in an under powered machine everything has to be about perfect to get a
> good weld...
>
> The machine I use is an Esseti   501c with wire feeder and a 25Ft push pull
> gun.. I can run out 50ft from the power source and up to 500amps.. I have
> welded material up to 2" pushing 0.045 wire and haven't ever had to go more
> than 3 turns of the power knob and it has 10 turns..
>
> Anyhow, Under powered welder with flux core will give a little better
> results  on thicker materials but ideally the area needs to be prepped and
> a good ground is a must..
>
> JLP Services Inc
> 6 Kenwood Dr
> Rutland, MA 01543-1215
>
> 1 (508) 667-5498
>
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 8:37 AM, terry l. ridder <terrylr at blauedonau.com>
> wrote:
>
>> hello;
>>
>> general question. mig welds
>> how do welds made using shield gas compare to welds made with flux-core
>> mig wire? is there a real difference?
>>
>> with the millermatic 185, i have always used shield gas. I was talking
>> with an acquaintance about mig welders and he asked me if I had ever used
>> flux-core wire. He mentioned that he used flux-core when welding
>> outdoors because even a slight breeze made shield gas useless. I had
>> never given it much thought.
>>
>>
>> --
>> terry l. ridder ><>

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