[TheForge] hydraulic chainsaws

Fri Oct 21 06:38:07 EDT 2016

I have heard pretty good things about the MS440, other than it being heavy.    And I use the premix fuel these days for my weed eater and the chainsaw the once every other year I use it.    No ethanol, seals tight in container, small quantity, no mixing and last me about a month in the summer.   I just don't use power tools that much, I moved back to muscle and it works fine for me.   The premix solved most of my two stroke issues, so for me it's a bargain, all of my stuff starts on a couple of pulls after following the instructions, so that is easily worth $28 a year for me.   If I was running a saw all day long it would be different, but then I wouldn't need it,  I would be going through the gas fast enough to ensure it didn't pick up water, or go bad. 

Charles

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> On Oct 20, 2016, at 9:28 PM, terry l. ridder <terrylr at blauedonau.com> wrote:
> 
> hello
> 
> I will blame the chainsaw and Stihl who designed and manufactureed the
> chainsaw. Stihl knows that most gasoline has ethanol added to it and has
> the ability to manufacture a two-cycle that is able to use it. Stihl
> also knows the typical homeowner's technical knowledge and should be
> designing to help the homeowner and not hinder them.
> 
> there are nearly 100 Stihl chainsaws on the various local sales lists
> a spot check of why they are selling them. Everyone was "Hard to start".
> 
> Making the fuel lines out of a material known to be degraded by ethanol
> just to get money for the dealers replacing fuel lines. I have replaced
> the fuel lines on all the saws myself and the MS441 has to be taken
> nearly completely apart to replace the fuel line.
> 
> Instead Stihl and others are now trying to convince the naive user to
> purchase Moto-Mix at the obscene price of $7.00+ USD per liter.
> $35.00+ USD per gallon.
> 
> The Stihl chainsaws I have have been well taken care, given how much I
> paid for them. After each use The gasoline was drained out and the saw
> was run dry. Spark Plugs replace nearly ever year. Fuel filters replaced
> every year. Air filters replaced as needed.
> 
> I fault Stihl very much on the inability to be able to get any of them
> to reliably start. Fresh Spark plugs, fresh 92 octane gasoline with no
> ethanol added, Stihl bar & chain oil in the oil reservoirs.
> 
> I do not have the balance to stand anywhere in soft uneven ground and
> continually fight to start any of three Stihl chainsaws.
> 
> If they do not start on the 2nd or 3rd pull I give up.
> 
> Concerning a hydraulic chainsaw being heavy, the Stihl Pole saw is
> heavy. The Saw is supported by a harness that the user wears.
> 
> Backpack Harness Kit
> http://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Products/Chainsaws/Pole-Pruners/2668-1576/HT-101.aspx
> 
> HT Carrier Support System
> https://wilsonsaw.stihldealer.net/products/pole-pruners/pole-pruner-accessories/htcarrier/
> 
> Stihl HT 131
> Stihl MS441
> Stihl MS170
> 
> Electric Chainsaws do not have the necessary power to cut the size of
> the logs I am cutting. Also they require either a long thick heavy
> extension cord or a high power inverter on the F150 and a shorter thick
> heavy extension cord. Been there done that Have the T-Shirt.
> 
> The hydraulic chainsaws I am looking at
> 
> Limbinator Hydraulic Saw, Model# LS8
> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200431419_200431419
> 
> Good Used Stanley Model CS05 Hydraulic Underwater Chainsaw Chain Saw w/14" Bar
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Good-Used-Stanley-Model-CS05-Hydraulic-Underwater-Chainsaw-Chain-Saw-w-14-Bar-/222160250817
> 
> Stanley Chainsaw CS05 Hydraulic Power CS05120M underwater carving 15" Oregon Bar
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stanley-Chainsaw-CS05-Hydraulic-Power-CS05120M-underwater-carving-15-Oregon-Bar-/302094277020
> 
> 
>> On Thu, 20 Oct 2016, jerry Frost wrote:
>> 
>> Sound advice Charles on all counts. Hydraulic tools are NOT meant to
>> be hand held, even things like the jaws of life are supported mostly
>> buy what they're cutting or spreading, not the EMT.
>> 
>> About problems with a Stihl chain saw. They don't care about alcohol
>> in the fuel, you're just letting it sit too long. Alcohol is hydroscopic,
>> it draws water from the air and water causes problems. If your chainsaw
>> was full of gunk stop using cheap oil.
>> 
>> Buy gas one gallon at a time you can run a 345 Stihl full throttle for
>> 8hrs on a gallon and you aren't doing near that. The tank holds less
>> than a quart, mix the fuel one quart at a time and leave the gallon can
>> SEALED. I have trouble believing you don't know how to operate 2 stroke
>> tools properly.
>> 
>> Stop blaming the tools Terry it isn't their fault.
>> 
>> Frosty
>> 
>> To: theforge e-mail list <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 7:31 AM
>> Subject: [TheForge] hydraulic chainsaws
>> 
>> hello;;
>> 
>> long time no write.
>> 
>> I am getting too  old to continue to fight with 2-cycle chainsaws.
>> i did learn my lesson about using gasoline with ethanol in it. the fuel
>> lines were turned to a glob of rubber. The Stihl chainsaws just do not
>> want to start for me.
>> 
>> i have seen several hydraulic chains. there are seeral used ones up for
>> sale and I am considering one of them. Just hook it into the read hydaulics
>> on the back of the tractor and start cutting.
>> 
>> I have several  dead chainsaws and figure it would worth asking if anyone
>> had ever used the pieces of a gas chainsaw to build an hydraulic chainsaw.
>> just a small hydraulic motor and a small trigger operated spool valve.
>> 
>> I would appreciate any hints or suggestions as to how to get gasoline
>> chainsaws to start most of the time instead of none of the time.
>> 
>> --
>> terry l. ridder ><>
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> terry l. ridder ><>
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