[TheForge] Pet Colk

Wed Nov 18 20:42:05 EST 2015

BUT NOW THEY KNOW........
LB

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From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce .
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [TheForge] Pet Colk

Ah, but you missed the earlier thread.  Colk is simply an archaic spelling, not an incorrect one...

Bruce
NJ

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Jeff Wilson <kc7pme at gmail.com> wrote:

> When I was younger we got pet chalk at the local farmers Coop.   It was in
> the same area as the snake tongue oil.  Neither is that common anymore.
> Folks don't oil their snake's tongue nor chalk their pets much these days.
>
> Jeff
> Correct spelling and nomenclature promotes  understanding.
> On the very wet side of Puget's Sound.
>
> "What appears to be coming at you is coming from you." -Jack Flanders 
> On Nov 18, 2015 6:11 AM, "Bob" <blcksmth at wcnet.org> wrote:
>
> >     I had access to some coke that was in very large chunks - some 
> > football size - that I tried to break with a hammer.
> > Like you there were pieces all over the place. I found a fellow at a 
> > tractor/engine show with a stone crusher.
> > I asked him if he would crush some coke if I brought it to the show. 
> > He did and the pieces are walnut size and smaller.
> >
> > Bob Willman
> > The Eagle's Anvil
> > Bowling Green, Ohio
> > WB8NQW
> >
> > Laws that forbid the Carrying of arms...disarm only those who are 
> > neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...such laws make 
> > things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; They 
> > serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed 
> > man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
> >
> > Thomas Jefferson
> >
> > On 11/18/2015 7:08 AM, Bruce . wrote:
> >
> >> (I've decided to revert to archaic spelling rather than invent a 
> >> new
> one.
> >> See previous thread "coak" if you don't know what I'm taking about 
> >> )
> >>
> >> Mike:
> >>
> >> NJBA has been using some colk we purchased (cheap) from the Pine 
> >> Creek
> RR
> >> (q.v.) because it burned too hot for their steam boilers (so I heard).
> I
> >> have long suspected that it's pet colk, but don't know.  It comes 
> >> as large-fist-sized chunks that must be broken up before use (tho 
> >> some
> lazy
> >> smiths try to get away without doing so).  It burns hot and clean, 
> >> but
> is
> >> rather more trouble to get started than is coal.
> >>
> >> We break up the chunks of this colk with a quick blow with a hammer.
> It's
> >> fairly brittle so breaks easily.  The main problem is it scatters 
> >> 360* when it does.  I once rigged a cardboard box with a steel 
> >> plate in the bottom which I put on the Grasshopper Treadle Hammer.  
> >> Properly configured, a fuller tool would crack the colk chunk 
> >> nicely.  The box retained the
> small
> >> chunks and crumbs.
> >>
> >> I always figured that what was needed was a steel box with a chute 
> >> below to feed the small stuff to a bin, and a hopper above to feed 
> >> chunks to the hammer -- tho the latter would be optional.
> >>
> >> Marshall (who owns the shop) thought we should put a piece of heavy 
> >> bar grate 
> >> (https://img3.fastenal.com/productimages/0952541_hr4c.jpg)
> >> over a bin, spread the colk on top, and stomp it with (
> >>
> >>
> https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-raVX61aZypuCsB
> BG2ceMh7F1kJqNjx999ftEflLh-98J0t5P
> >> ).
> >> No doubt that would have been faster, but we never even tried it,
> whereas
> >> I
> >> did try the treadle hammer approach.  I just never built a 
> >> permanent device.
> >>
> >> It's rather moot for us because we're giving away this fuel to 
> >> those who attend our open forge meet.  THEY're the ones who have to 
> >> break it up
> for
> >> use.
> >>
> >> Never got around to building such a thing
> >>
> >> Bruce
> >> NJ
> >>
> >> I have this vague recollection that there is an abundant and
> >>
> >>> superfluous supply of pet coke in certain places that the owners 
> >>> are eager to get rid of.  And a similar recollection that it tends 
> >>> to come in suitcase-sized chunks and be very hard -- much harder 
> >>> than lumpy bituminous coal -- to break up and is much harder to get burning well.
> >>>
> >>> So is pet coke something that might be had for the cost of fetching it
> >>> and finding a way to crush it into pea size?   Would it be worth the
> >>> trouble?  This:
> >>>
> >>>      http://home.tallships.ca/mspencer/temp/crusher.html
> >>>
> >>> was not adequate for production crushing. :-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Mike
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Michael Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada       .~.
> >>>                                                             /V\
> >>> mspencer at tallships.ca                                     /( )\
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