[TheForge] Arc welding advice sought

Bruce . freemab222 at gmail.com
Thu Jun 4 21:23:24 EDT 2015


Oh, you didn't hear?  We sold AK to Putin for $121 million ....

Bruce
NJ

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:05 PM, jerry Frost <akfrosty at mtaonline.net> wrote:

> I just skimmed through the Messer site and though I didn't find a reference
> for MG750 rod, I liked the sound of the "Problem Solver" rod, the MG750 is
> probably in the Problem Solver category.
>
> Though they say they're a global country their "world" map doesn't include
> Alaska. Not that I'm surprised nor really complaining mind. It's old news
> to
> us. <grin>
>
> Frosty
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron
> Childers
> Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 3:30 AM
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> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Arc welding advice sought
>
> Toss a few in the next 5 gal bucketful you sell me
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> dantull dantull
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 8:33 PM
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> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Arc welding advice sought
>
> Ya'll need to check out MG750 rods. Not as expensive, great for dissimilar
> steels, NO pre/post heat. Been using them for years for mild hardy tangs to
> tool steel, and anvil repair.
>
> It's not firewood, it's a vaasse.
> Dan Tull
> Georgia
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:29 PM, jerry Frost <akfrosty at mtaonline.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Good deal, I think you're on the right track now.
> >
> > I use Kaowool, refractory ceramic blanket for annealing if I don't
> > just leave it in the forge till cool. Great stuff, I keep extra around
> > just because.
> >
> > Frosty
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TheForge [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> > Mike Spencer
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 3:15 PM
> > To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: [TheForge] Arc welding advice sought
> >
> >
> > Follow-up to my problem of brittleness & fracture in the HAZ when
> > welding m/s to truck helper spring stock:
> >
> >    + Cut off a test piece of the stock.
> >
> >    + Pre-heated in gas forge.  Turned kinda purple-ish but not a
> >      carefully controlled heat.
> >
> >    + Welded while hot with 7018.  Just a butt weld, no V but reversed
> >      polarity.
> >
> >    + Post-heated in gas forge.
> >
> >    + Wrapped in ceramic wool batts until dead cold.
> >
> > Once cool, I put the test piece in a heavy vise and tried to bust it
> > with a 12# sledge.  No sign of cracking.
> >
> > So today I repeated the process with the actual work piece.  Almost
> > too big for the tube-type forge but I git it in and turned around several
> times.
> > The m/s part was already tacked in place and it got dull red but not
> > the much heavier 2x3x8 inch spring stock.
> >
> > It'll take all night for it to cool in the batts so we'll see tomorrow.
> >
> > An aside: That ceramic batt is great stuff. Set a hot workpiece on it
> > so the welding table won't draw heat.  Lay a piece over the top and
> > you can rest your gloved hand on the hot workpiece without getting
> > burned.
> >
> > Thanks all for the suggestions,
> > - Mike
> >
> > --
> > Michael Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada       .~.
> >                                                            /V\
> > mspencer at tallships.ca                                     /( )\
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