[TheForge] OT: My floor is poured: the saga

[Dan Scheid]

Andy making a floor level with a 1" hump is hard work and will cost some but
do able without adding 3"inchs first you grind down the hump then use a
self-leveling compound to  fix it . I saw the vid you posted and did not see
footing dug. How did you pour around the peers?  As for the cost of the
forms I use 2x8 on my forms then use the 2x8 for my floor joist. Do you need
to build an out building or shop in the future ?  or use  2x6 and use them
for your walls  for the mud I would put down a ton of plastic around the
house to help keep the rain off  go out 30' or more and trench out side it
to move the runoff away 
Dan Scheid
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Vida
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On 9/3/14, 7:59 AM, Bob Ehrenberger wrote:
> OT: My floor is poured: the saga (Andrew Vida)
>
> Andy, did you get the walls poured? I saw the talk about forms but no 
> saga for a pour.
Not the walls.  BIG problems there.  Engineer came to examine the state of
the piers a company caller Marco put in late last summer. They pooched the
job BIG time.  They used push-piers which are now considered inferior.
Engineer said they should have used screw piles, which makes sense to me.
The push-piers are supposed to go in plumb all ways.  
These are bent out 6.5" in 6 feet, WAY beyond the tolerance for such piers.
On top of that, the walls are only 3/16.  Engineer said 1/4 is absolute
minimum on a 3" pier.  SO now I'm in it with a lawyer and winter is coming
and I have no idea how any of this is going to get done.

They way it was planned is that I was going to use the earth (red shale
clay) as the outer form.  Inner forms would be about $500 to build or rent.
Set them up, place rebar, pour, done.  But because those idiots screwed the
drainage, the whole front caved in - about 20 or more yards with more coming
every tome it rains heavily, the last time being just after the floors were
poured.  The forms to do things this way are going to be close to $5K, which
we do not nearly have, so we are in some deep shit here and it was NOT my
fault.  I had that clay dressed and it stood immutable for at least 2.5
years.  Those fops did their thing and a couple weeks later the cave-ins
started right where they'd been working.  Then one night around 2AM this big
whoosh and the house shook and in the morning there was at least 10 yards of
goo in the excavated space.  And those bastards tried to tell me it was
coincidence.  Liars.
>
> I have a friend that drives a concrete truck, he told me last week 
> that they were subing ice for part of the water to keep it from 
> getting too hot too quick. He is on a bridge pour and the foreman 
> checks the temp of the mix before accepting a load.

I should have ordered a test tube with the mix.  The mere threat of me
having the concrete tested would have been enough to guarantee a good load.
I wish I'd known that Tuesday morning.

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