[TheForge] OT: My floor is poured: the saga

Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer artgawk at thegrid.net
Thu Sep 4 16:32:28 EDT 2014


I've long wondered if a hefty ultrasonic driver on the barrel might not be the solution.
My guess is that it was a mix design error compounded by transport time and temperature.
At least, that's what happened to us.

On Sep 4, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Andrew Vida wrote:

Oh, and the  4 or so yards left in the truck hardened up like a sailor who's been out to sea a bit too long.  Not sure if they will hammer the barrel out or just replace it.  They were already blaming the driver, but I don't see how it was his fault.


On 9/2/14, 8:10 PM, jerry Frost wrote:
> Another step forward, congratulations. It's good to hear about an honest
> contractor. Wanna bet Ready Mix is going to be eating his labor loss? A bad
> word in the trade community will cost them a LOT more than making everybody
> whole. All it takes is one mis stroke in the batch plant to add accelerant
> instead of a retarder to the mx design. Floors should have a touch of
> retarder so the concrete man has time to do a nice job. I have a buddy who
> drives a concrete truck and the guy at the batch plant loaded him out with a
> gunnite mix. The buy who screwed it up had to jack hammer the mixer drum
> clean while the company gave J a different rig till his was clean and
> repaired.
> 
> How bad is the finish? If you don't wait too long you can smooth and clean
> it up nicely without too much work using a floor sander. Get one that will
> wet sand so you can wet sand the concrete or you'll have irritating dust all
> over everything. Heck, you might be able to charge the rental and
> consumables back to Ready Mix. That kind of mistake can cost a batch plant a
> BUNCH.
> 
> Sounds like you needed a plate compacter to get that stuff smoothed down for
> walks and such, a rake and trowel probably wasn't really up to it. If I ever
> have concrete poured again I'm buying paver molds for the extra mix and
> clean out. The clean out wash is excellent for stabilizing gravel or sandy
> soils.
> 
> No comment about the pile on the driveway, think of it as a badge of some
> sort. Maybe the owner of Ready Mix will come to a BBQ and ask what happened.
> <evil grin>
> 
> Jer
> -----Original Message-----
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> Vida
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> 
> Stupidity follows me like a bad cold.  Concrete shows up, we begin pumping.
> In 20 minutes it is set enough to stand on.  We got the whole deal done, but
> the finish is not the best.  Not disastrous, but a little rough.  The
> finisher was so upset he refused payment. Ready mix company took 1/3+ off
> the price, probably thankful I was not talking about suing them.
> 
> They also mis-estimated the load, saying I'd need 20 yards when 13 did the
> job.  I had them dump the rest on the driveway, which was really wild
> because by then the concrete was hot and it poured into a huge mountain
> which I then had to rake into crude place like a wildman before it would no
> longer move, resulting in thinking I was going to have a major heart attack
> at 56, and I can tell you that I am in pretty good shape for my years.
> 
> So the finish sucks a little, but I saved almost $1000 thanks to their
> error.  Oh, and they dumped about 1/4 yard of concrete on my driveway, which
> was lots of fun to clean up and now the asphalt is streaked white, but I
> don't care that much about it.  I have a floor and I am happy enough.
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