[TheForge] Question about metallic heat shield for wood stoves
Paul N
crosspein at sbcglobal.net
Fri Oct 24 14:55:07 EDT 2014
This is a common issue, and shields are readily available and fairly cheap.
I had added them to the stove in my first home (30 years ago) and added cement board on the wall behind it. As mentioned, the flue also needs a shield.
You can layer the shields (use more than one, with proper spacing and air flow) to reduce the clearance pretty far.
Most of the stove manufacturers, or the shops that sell them, can provide a lot of detail with much more experience than most of us have. (Even the Q&A on Amazon.com for these products can help you decide what to do)
**Paul
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On Fri, 10/24/14, Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer <artgawk at thegrid.net> wrote:
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Question about metallic heat shield for wood stoves
To: "John switzer" <switz at mindspring.com>, "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Friday, October 24, 2014, 12:23 PM
I'd add that cement
board is cheap, stiff and reasonably fire proof as well as
accepts a decorative plaster face.
On Oct 24, 2014, at 6:41 AM, John switzer
wrote:
Code requires a
36" space for a non-rated stove. If you can find the
stove manufactures specs it may be approved for a closer
spacing. In any case a metal heat shield (or any other non
combustible material for that matter) will allow for half of
the clearence. The heat shield must have a 1" air gap
between the stove, if installed there or the wall with no
fasteners directly between the stove and the wall. Also a
1" gap at the floor. Often times with a newer stove,
the chimney is the issue, double wall black pie really cuts
own the space requirements there as well. I think you can
instal a double heat shield to further cut down on the
clearence. A call tothe local building department will
answer any questions.
John
John Switzer
Black Bear
Forge
P.O. Box 4
Beulah, CO
81023
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>
From: Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net>
> Sent: Oct 24, 2014 6:05 AM
> To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
<theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [TheForge] Question about
metallic heat shield for wood stoves
>
> About three years ago our friend
Elaine had a terrible thing happen.
>
Her husband, Phil, did a Jerry with a tree, only he did not
survive.
> She has been having a
terrible time since. Elaine is as kind and decent
> and sweet a human being as anyone could
ever hope to meet. Bibi and I
> try to
help her as much as we can, though she never asks.
>
> She is replacing her
wood stove with a newer one and wants to do the
> install as close to correctly as possible
with an eye to possible sale
> of the
farm as she is about 65 and not getting younger. She has
been
> unsure of how to do the tile deal
on the walls and I suggested to her a
>
metallic heat shield between the stove and walls. That
would allow her
> to place the stove
closer to the wall, which will perforce have to sit
> catty-corner in order to look proper. It
will be on a raised platform
> that I
suppose I will be building. :) I was thinking a slate top
to the
> dais, but that is another issue
entirely.
>
> My idea
is to weld up a frame to which sheet metal ca. 20-18 ga. is
> fixed and arranged to reflect the heat
back into the room and away from
> the
wall. I do not think more than a 4" - 6" gap
between heater and
> shield is needed
but thought I would ask you guys in case I am
> mistaken. I've never done this sort
of thing before and do not wish to
> be
responsible for our friend's house burning down.
>
> Also, how close
should we be able to place the shield to the interior
> wall of the house? We have gas heaters
that throw off a lot of heat,
> yet the
skimpy sheet metal backs allow us to place the units either
on
> the wall or no more than 6"
away and keeps things barely warm to the
> touch. Elaine is concerned that the
arrangement of the stove will eat
> too
much space in the room, so I would like to get it as close
to the
> wall without being completely
imprudent of safety.
>
> Other OT question: the man who built the
addition to the house sort of
> pooched
a few items. Apparently he failed to flash at least two
valleys
> where the old and new meet and
there is one small leak where vertical
>
meets slope and the T-111 in one place is beginning to show
decay below
> her bedroom window. My
idea, without having seen the situation yet, is
> to flash the areas but I've never
attempted to do it on an existent
>
structure with tar shingles and was wondering if anyone had
any wisdom.
> My thinking is to do a
step-flashing on the former, getting the metal
> under the shingles in the corner, gooing
the hell out of the top with
> tar.
Not sure that is the right approach, though as water can get
under
> the shingles, but is stopped by
the metal below to protect the
>
substrate. Is this OK, or should the metal sit atop both
surfaces with
> a ton of tar sealing
each long seam?
>
>
Same for the latter situation - metal outside the T-111,
gooed up real
> good and atop the roof
sloping down and away from the windows.
>
> Thought is copper flashing with copper
roofing nails or aluminum
> w/aluminum
or perhaps stainless nails. Not sure about the stainless
and
> any galvanic reactions, though.
>
> Any thoughts and
help would be very much appreciated. I'd thought to
> include her email address so you could
reply directly, but her machine
> is
down... poor girl is having a really hard time with just
about
> everything... one of those
"when it rains it pours" situations.
>
> Thanks guys.
>
> -Andy
>
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