[TheForge] All States propane torch

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All, 



I, too, listened to Frosty. I bought one of the torches when Lyle was still amoungst us. Not much of a users guide but I was promised a better one. Never got it. However, I use the torch as a local heat source and have muddled my way into it's use. Any information you can supply would be helpful. 



Mark Williams 

Snow Hill, Maryland 



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From: "Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer" <artgawk at thegrid.net> 
To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net> 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 1:52:30 PM 
Subject: Re: [TheForge] All States propane torch 

Thank you Clyde....That's what i was hoping to hear! 

On May 31, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Clyde Wynia wrote: 

Peter, 

I have two of these Allstates torches. They are fantastic. They are made for 
Allstates by Harris. A couple of years ago the guy would handles Harris for 
the Western half of the US was out here with a motorcycle group and we 
talked about the torch, prices etc. 

I questioned him on getting one of the torches. He called the home office at 
Harris and was told that Harris sells the same torch they sell to Allstates 
to anyone. I checked some sellers and you can pick those torches up for a 
fraction of the price. I did some searching and found a dealer on the net 
that sells them pretty cheap. 

The only question I still have is the propane regulator. The one that comes 
with the Allstates kit is self adjusting and goes up as I understand it to 
only 4oz. That's all this torch needs but you can crank the Oxy up to 120 
lbs and more. I don't know where you would get that same regulator or if it 
is necessary. 

Allstates only sells these over the net or through demonstrators and keep 
the prices ridiculously high. For example the Harris tip through them costs 
3 times as much as the same number Harris costs from anyone else. Since Lyle 
died the service and cooperation from the allstates people has deteriorated. 


I can look up the parts numbers and send them to you if you like 

Clyde 

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[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Fels & Phoebe 
Palmer 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 3:46 PM 
To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA 
Subject: [TheForge] All States propane torch 

Theforge seems pretty dead...so i thought to post something to see if anyone 
is still alive here. 
Frosty has enthusiastically touted these torches for years and i've never 
been able to afford one new or find one used. 
It appears that they are really good and efficient at oxy-propane rosebud 
heating and pretty good at economical cutting. 
The rest of the claims seem ripe with hype..I say this without ever using 
one. 
Using my biggest Victor rosebud for spot heat while forging and bending...I 
burn a heck of a lot of oxy and the nearest gas distributor is over the 
mountain, an hour and a half  drive away. 
But...The full on, "Magnum" AllStates rig costs around $1500! And just 
enough stuff to run their rosebud looks like around $1000 according to Darin 
there. 
The web site is amateurish, there is no 800# or parts list, or price list... 
The guy who invented it is RIP.  Wonder how long they will remain in 
business? 
Did i mention they also sell riding mowers and guns and ammo? 
So, if anyone has an allstates torch rig they want to sell cheap..please let 
me know.... 
Otherwise, it's gunna have to save a whole heck of a lot of oxy to begin to 
justify the price! 
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