[TheForge] All States propane torch

[James Binnion]

I am quite pleased with what I have experienced with the Harris low pressure mixer and the new propane regulator. Since I don't have an AllStates It is hard for me to  do a direct comparison to that but when compared to my Victor torch with a high pressure regulator and standard mixer the Harris with the low pressure mixer is clearly superior.

Jim



On Jul 15, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer wrote:

> Hi Jim:
> Now that you have the necessary parts;
> Is the AllStates claim of a 450,000 BTU rosebud realistic?
> 
> On Jun 1, 2013, at 10:36 PM, James Binnion wrote:
> 
> Clyde,
> 
> I would like to get the part numbers from you for the Harris products.
> 
> Jim
> On May 31, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Clyde Wynia wrote:
> 
>> Peter,
>> 
>> I have two of these Allstates torches. They are fantastic. They are made for
>> Allstates by Harris. A couple of years ago the guy would handles Harris for
>> the Western half of the US was out here with a motorcycle group and we
>> talked about the torch, prices etc. 
>> 
>> I questioned him on getting one of the torches. He called the home office at
>> Harris and was told that Harris sells the same torch they sell to Allstates
>> to anyone. I checked some sellers and you can pick those torches up for a
>> fraction of the price. I did some searching and found a dealer on the net
>> that sells them pretty cheap. 
>> 
>> The only question I still have is the propane regulator. The one that comes
>> with the Allstates kit is self adjusting and goes up as I understand it to
>> only 4oz. That's all this torch needs but you can crank the Oxy up to 120
>> lbs and more. I don't know where you would get that same regulator or if it
>> is necessary.
>> 
>> Allstates only sells these over the net or through demonstrators and keep
>> the prices ridiculously high. For example the Harris tip through them costs
>> 3 times as much as the same number Harris costs from anyone else. Since Lyle
>> died the service and cooperation from the allstates people has deteriorated.
>> 
>> 
>> I can look up the parts numbers and send them to you if you like
>> 
>> Clyde
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Fels & Phoebe
>> Palmer
>> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 3:46 PM
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>> Subject: [TheForge] All States propane torch
>> 
>> Theforge seems pretty dead...so i thought to post something to see if anyone
>> is still alive here.
>> Frosty has enthusiastically touted these torches for years and i've never
>> been able to afford one new or find one used.
>> It appears that they are really good and efficient at oxy-propane rosebud
>> heating and pretty good at economical cutting.
>> The rest of the claims seem ripe with hype..I say this without ever using
>> one.
>> Using my biggest Victor rosebud for spot heat while forging and bending...I
>> burn a heck of a lot of oxy and the nearest gas distributor is over the
>> mountain, an hour and a half  drive away.
>> But...The full on, "Magnum" AllStates rig costs around $1500! And just
>> enough stuff to run their rosebud looks like around $1000 according to Darin
>> there.
>> The web site is amateurish, there is no 800# or parts list, or price list...
>> The guy who invented it is RIP.  Wonder how long they will remain in
>> business?
>> Did i mention they also sell riding mowers and guns and ammo?
>> So, if anyone has an allstates torch rig they want to sell cheap..please let
>> me know....
>> Otherwise, it's gunna have to save a whole heck of a lot of oxy to begin to
>> justify the price!
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