[TheForge] power and accidents

[Jerry Frost]

I bet Andy, we have oil burners, wood burners and a propane burning forge 
and rangetop but we just don't get enough draft cards and bras to warm much 
of anything. whew!

Jer
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Vida" <osan at netlabs.net>
To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] power and accidents


> Good grief... I bet Friday nights at the Fels residence must be a real 
> hoot... :)
>
> On 1/16/2013 11:55 AM, Bruce . wrote:...Extremists...
>>
>> Draft-card burners...
>>
>> Bra burners...
>
>
> Extremists?  Really?
>
>> PETA is a very short-sighted organization.  "Ethical treatment" of
>> animals I support.
>
> As do I.  I even subscribe to the notion of "animal rights" in some 
> limited measure.  No problem with beating an abuser with an iron bar (ob. 
> smithing content).  None.  Don't even have a problem shooting one of the 
> varmints in extreme cases, but there is a very delicate line there, the 
> crossing of which starts to rub against the possibly sad and harsh 
> realities of life as carnivores.  I might beat a guy abusing his dog but I 
> will never interfere with a man's choice of food-stuffs, though I find the 
> thought of eating kitties truly revolting.
>
>> Much of what has been done to lab animals is indefensible.
>
> I completely agree with you on this.  Loathe as I am to ban anything, I 
> could live with this one.  It is criminal.
>
>> However, PETA's insistence
>> that we all should be vegans is a bit much.  Vegetarians have the odd
>> concept that all those lovely sheep and cows and pigs and chickens
>> will go into retirement when we stop eating them.  In fact, they'll go
>> extinct!
>
> They are pig-ignorant.  "Lets break in and release all the animals so they 
> will live happily in nature..."  Jesus in a taxicab... have they no brains 
> of which to speak?
>>
>> So, again, Greenpeace is a few loud people who call attention to such
>> things as Japanese "research" on whales.  I guess the Japanese are
>> researching which whales taste best!  I don't have much sympathy for
>> whalers and wouldn't be real upset if Greenpeace sent THEM down the
>> Marianas trench.
>
> That cuts both ways.
>
> I would not work on one of those vessels to begin with, but if I had to I 
> would not go without arms.  Greenpeace shows up and gets within 50 yard 
> and I would start putting them down hard, no questions asked, until they 
> begged off.  There are right ways and not so right ones and Greenpeace 
> goes off the rails with their stupidity.  I admire that they act, but 
> their choices are questionable at the very best.
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