[TheForge] power and accidents

[Andrew Vida]

Good grief... I bet Friday nights at the Fels residence must be a real 
hoot... :)

On 1/16/2013 11:55 AM, Bruce . wrote:...Extremists...
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> Draft-card burners...
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> Bra burners...


Extremists?  Really?

> PETA is a very short-sighted organization.  "Ethical treatment" of
> animals I support.

As do I.  I even subscribe to the notion of "animal rights" in some 
limited measure.  No problem with beating an abuser with an iron bar 
(ob. smithing content).  None.  Don't even have a problem shooting one 
of the varmints in extreme cases, but there is a very delicate line 
there, the crossing of which starts to rub against the possibly sad and 
harsh realities of life as carnivores.  I might beat a guy abusing his 
dog but I will never interfere with a man's choice of food-stuffs, 
though I find the thought of eating kitties truly revolting.

> Much of what has been done to lab animals is indefensible.

I completely agree with you on this.  Loathe as I am to ban anything, I 
could live with this one.  It is criminal.

> However, PETA's insistence
> that we all should be vegans is a bit much.  Vegetarians have the odd
> concept that all those lovely sheep and cows and pigs and chickens
> will go into retirement when we stop eating them.  In fact, they'll go
> extinct!

They are pig-ignorant.  "Lets break in and release all the animals so 
they will live happily in nature..."  Jesus in a taxicab... have they no 
brains of which to speak?
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> So, again, Greenpeace is a few loud people who call attention to such
> things as Japanese "research" on whales.  I guess the Japanese are
> researching which whales taste best!  I don't have much sympathy for
> whalers and wouldn't be real upset if Greenpeace sent THEM down the
> Marianas trench.

That cuts both ways.

I would not work on one of those vessels to begin with, but if I had to 
I would not go without arms.  Greenpeace shows up and gets within 50 
yard and I would start putting them down hard, no questions asked, until 
they begged off.  There are right ways and not so right ones and 
Greenpeace goes off the rails with their stupidity.  I admire that they 
act, but their choices are questionable at the very best.