[TheForge] nuclear

Wed Jan 16 14:25:57 EST 2013

Govt jobs come with considerable benefits, protections, promotions and stability. 
In poorer areas the pay is comparatively juicy.
They all so come with a load of bureaucratic bullshit only found in large, older corporations.
Sure would like to see the wage disparity between top and bottom flattened a whole lot.
Smart, talented folks are going to want challenging jobs regardless.

I'm using a loaner hydraulic press ( till the guy sells it) and it's travel is awful slow for hot forging.
Is there a safe way to inexpensively incorporate a lower pressure  air/gas accumulator 
in the system to cut down the unloaded travel time?
It's not mine and i don't much want to sink a lot of money in it.

On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:02 AM, dann at wctatel.net wrote:

The disparity between the blue color workers and lower level white color
workers used to be close to nil.  My long retired machinist father in law
working in a non-union shop once earned a healthy wage.

Most State & Federal employees, I'd think are primarily white color
workers. In the "Private Sector" Executives / Upper management  have seen
their wages sky rocket in the last two decades, while blue color wages
have been pretty stagnant.

I read the USATODAY story with great skeptacism.  I have become pretty 
jaded. So many times when I start digging, I find that statistics are
selectively  skimmed to prove some "think tank" agenda.  I read a story
how the Toyota Prius was more expensive to run than a HUMVEE.  Then got
down to the nuts and bolts of how the article was skewed with an agenda
against  the prius and in favor of the humvee,

Oh .. and  25/ 30 years ago, I was a county executive for USDA for just
short of 8 years. I supervised a comparable number of employees, several
times the volume of farmer-clients, than the grain elevator managers in my
area, for well under half their annual salary.

Funny point was,  a decade later, while sitting as a board director for my
electric COOP hiring a new manager, I noted that one of the applicants had
held the same USDA level job that I once had.  The pay at that time was
still less than half what we were offering to our prospective manager.

Dann

> 
> 
> "Federal employees earn higher average salaries than private-sector
> workers
> in more than eight out of 10 occupations, a USA TODAY analysis of federal
> data finds"
> http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-04-federal-pay_N.htm
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andy Gladish
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:53 PM
> To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [TheForge] nuclear
> 
> Andy, I totally get your frustration, and I think you're looking at the
> symptoms and not at the disease: Agreed, the government has the ability to
> delay projects that would be beneficial, but when you Follow Da Money
> there's almost always a private (I guess publicly held companies can be
> called "private") entity behind it.
> With the exception of the top tier of elected officials, earnings for
> Federal employees are in almost every case below what private industry
> would
> pay- where's the incentive for all the hostile action you attribute to
> them?
> The "mental illness" argument is the same one that anti-gun people are
> using
> to discredit gun owners, and it's equally untrue in this case. There are
> some tweaky folks in every group, but mostly people get up in the morning
> and do their best.
> I totally agree that Congress is corrupt and a liability- the reason is
> that
> they're controlled by conflicting private entities.
> Here's the first principle of understanding this stuff- Follow Da Money.
> The only people making bank from your taxes are the private entities that
> benefit from controlling society.
> 
> 
> --
> Andy Gladish, Element Fe Metal Studio
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