[TheForge] Is anyone on-line ? OT: Washed away?

[Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer]

Not what we need in a hurricane then, besides, the old ones come with their own junkyard and many of the tools we'd need to do metal sculpture.

On Nov 8, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Ries Niemi wrote:

no, if you read my link, you will see that the cheap used subs, the Russian Whiskey class, are quite noisy, and really easy for modern military and customs to find- hence, they are decidedly unpopular with drug smugglers.

Drug smugglers actually buy NEW, mini subs, which are specifically designed and built for smuggling.
http://theweek.com/article/index/212148/colombias-100-foot-drug-smuggling-submarine
a drug smuggling sub is smaller, has no need for weapons, and is designed to go only a few meters underwater for relatively short periods- it just needs to sneak past a border- so they are much cheaper to make- they dont need to be built to stay submerged for months, or to go down hundreds of feet.

ries

On Nov 8, 2012, at 9:21 AM, Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer wrote:

> I think the south-of-the border cartel crowd has driven up the market. Gotta weld up your own and the maintenance is a post-heat female dog.
> 
> On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Andrew Vida wrote:
> 
> Anyone know where I can find a surplus nuclear attack sub cheap?
> 
> On 11/8/2012 12:04 AM, Charles wrote:
>> If you want a structure to survive a hurricane, I think you are best off
>> starting with it underwater.
>> 
>> 
>> Charles
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