[TheForge] Unbelievable...

Sun Jul 8 22:38:58 EDT 2012

Bruce,
   I personally do not think that you need to apologize for anything. I 
stand by my reasoning even though it is no more provable than your opinions. 
My only concern with your statement is your conscious decision to send on a 
report which you concur might be a "total fraud", but since it agrees with 
your sentiments, the truth doesn't matter and it's not worth your time to 
corroborate.  And there is a LOT of difference between a prosecution by the 
Church and one by the Indian Gov't., regardless of the age of the law.  So 
similar a response to the dogmatic religious types, don't you think?  On 
your statement and examples about organized religion,  I fully concur.  No 
has yet pointed out the Chapter and Verse in the Bible which says "Thou 
shalt be "(insert religion name here)".  Do you think that anything done in 
the name of God somehow proves or disproves His existence?  Do you think 
that since there is human suffering, caused by both man made and/or natural 
disasters, there must be no God? I've no clue what God's ultimate goal is, 
but I'm not willing to throw out the baby with the bath water.  I see the 
goodness of God every day.  And I try to help those in need when I can. 
Often, you have to look for both.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce ." <freemab222 at gmail.com>
To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Unbelievable...

> Ed, Lincoln, and anyone else of similar mindset:
>
> You get me wrong.  I apologized for posting that message HERE, in
> error.  I never  intended to do that.
>
> I don't for a minute rescind the sentiments I expressed.  Sure, it's
> possible this report was a total fraud, but I have no reason to think
> so.  And what difference does it make that a  law was passed in 1860
> if it's enforced today?
>
> Much of what is wrong with the world is directly attributable to
> organized religions -- each one insisting it is the Truth, and
> brooking no argument otherwise.  Perhaps the worst aspect of organized
> religion is the way it is constantly reinterpreted by its current
> practitioners to suit their current prejudices or political desires.
> Witness the justification of Southern black slavery on Biblical
> grounds. I could give a LOT of more timely examples, but my objective
> here is not to start a flame war.  I realize that not all people who
> consider themselves religious hold to such nonsense, but, then, are
> they really practicing their religion?  I can't answer that for the
> rest of you.
>
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Ed Eccleston <edeccleston at att.net> wrote:
>> Ha!  I'm shocked, SHOCKED!  :)  And so it shall ever be...
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Saint Phlip" <phlip at 99main.com>
>> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 5:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Unbelievable...
>>
>>
>>> Ed, you gotta understand- we've been arguing for years ;-)
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Ed Eccleston <edeccleston at att.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> I'm a brand new subscriber to The Forge, and I find this thread more 
>>>> than
>>>> coincidental, even more so since it has nothing to do with pounding 
>>>> iron.
>>>> I fully believe that God works in mysterious ways. I believe it was no
>>>> accident that Bruce's email went to those
>>>> who would gently show him the article was both misleading and 
>>>> inaccurate.
>>>> I've seen no animosity in the replies.  That is how God puts His point
>>>> across.  And maybe, just maybe, Bruce will think a bit before 
>>>> forwarding
>>>> similar things in the future.
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>>> --
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>>>
>>> So, you think your data is safe?
>>> http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/01/23/schneier.google.hacking/index.html?hpt=T2
>>>
>>> Heat it up
>>> Hit it hard
>>> Repent as necessary.
>>>
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