[TheForge] shooting (GETTING WAY OT HERE)

[Dave Mudge]

Good Folks, Unless you are going to talk about FORGING guns,,,,
Let's take this conversation to some other forum.... please....

dave m.
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On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:27 AM, James <jallcorn at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>
> Amid all the clamor to restrict guns, I recall reading of the amendment to
> outlaw liquor...
>
> All it did was send everything underground. It turned some into criminals,
> made others rich and powerful beyond the wildest imaginations and, in the
> case of gun ownership, takes away a very effective tool. When guns are
> outlawed, the winner is the government who will have one less impediment in
> the continual struggle in its mistaken attempts to gain more control and
> more power over the people it was originally designed to assist.
>
> The second amendment exists to control the negative rights on government,
> not positive controls on people. It was put in place for that reason alone,
> and there was a revolutionary war to punctuate and prove the point.
>
> Reporters have been quick to point out Connecticut has one of the
> strictest gun laws in the nation. What a horrendous example of how effective
> it is.
>
> And that’s because this has nothing to do with guns other than it was the
> tool this man used to mete out his unimaginable punishment on two classrooms
> filled with young children.
>
> It’s about some type of all-consuming rage that, thankfully, most of us
> are unable and unwilling to comprehend. It’s the type of horror I would
> imagine even gives psychiatrists nightmares. It’s the type of disease that
> would find any way to express itself, and this time happened to be guns.
>
> It’s the same type of rage that seduced someone into putting poison into
> bottles of Tylenol, which eventually killed people at random. Perhaps even
> the same attitude that allows a country’s ruler to use chemical warfare on
> his own people.
>
> None of it is about the chosen weapon of destruction. All of it is about
> the individual who took their rage out on those around them whether they
> were part of their problem or not.
>
> If you think law enforcement has or will have the kind of tools necessary
> to have stopped something like this, you live in a fantasy world. I would
> recommend attending the next Police Department Citizens Police Academy to
> learn enough to at least discuss it in a cogent manner. Or just have a
> serious talk with your friendly neighborhood police chief.
>
> So as the debate rages on, it might pay to calm down a little. Think and
> discuss the situation in a rational manner that doesn’t involve knee-jerk
> reactions or agendized politics. Neither one of which could possible have
> kept this tragedy from happening.
>
>
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