[TheForge] todays shooting in school.
CraigSchaefer
calvinjean2 at comcast.net
Mon Dec 17 16:28:29 EST 2012
banning "assault LOOKING weapons"?
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From: wmullett at bright.net
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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 11:46:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] todays shooting in school.
Baloney, You wrote: "There are less than 30 dead out of a nation of millions! "
Don't trivialize! No matter how many, this is horrific.
There is no reason for large magazine clips or even assault looking weapons.
I hunt and have many guns. My neighbor even has a 223 - bolt action. <<<< That is a hunting rifle. An assault weapon - 223, semi-automatic with a large magazine is a man killer.
Call this for what it is. Having these weapons available has nothing to do with hunting or the constitution.
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>Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:14:37 -0800
>From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net (on behalf of Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer <artgawk at thegrid.net>)
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] todays shooting in school.
>To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>
>I apologize that you are disgusted by my response.
>I realized that some folks would feel that way and elected to risk it.
>But i was disgusted by the way our nation unquestioningly accepted
>the wildly distorted reality that the media presents on this issue,
> just so that they can sell advertising.
>It's a dramatic and heart rending story,
>but the odds of it actually happening to a child are literally 1 in a million.
>We have lost all sense of proportion here, and consequently,
>will spend our energies to little effect, while more important issues will be ignored.
>The end result i seek, is less dead people.
>
>At this point, i'll bow out of this conversation and go heat and hammer some bronze.
>Thanks to the listmom for tolerating this diversion.
>
>On Dec 17, 2012, at 10:47 AM, <wmullett at bright.net> wrote:
>
>Sorry - but this kind of response is disgusting.
>
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>> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:30:19 -0800
>> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net (on behalf of Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer <artgawk at thegrid.net>)
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] todays shooting in school.
>> To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>
>> Just to raise a little sand:
>> I'd note that we , as smiths, are part of a tradition of weapons makers,
>> and so part of the onus lies on our shoulders.
>> Still:
>> We see this hysteria saturating the news and it fills our awareness totally...but ,
>> This is a news event more than anything.
>> We kill more folks in traffic every single day.
>> There are less than 30 dead out of a nation of millions!
>> We've lost all sense of proportion.
>>
>> The automatic weapons are already out there and impossible to recall.
>> A few gallons of gasoline is more available and could easily have made this tragedy even more horrible.
>> Adequately funding mental health and education would be a more constructive response.
>> ...plus a snip from smith richard ferguson...
>>
>> The highway death toll in the USA is about 90 people per day, the lowest it has been since 1949.
>>
>> The suicide rate is a little higher than the highway death toll, at 105 per day.
>>
>> The homicide rate in the USA is also at a historic low, around 40 per day.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 14, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Bruce . wrote:
>>
>> How about a national dialog about this too obvious problem? Two
>> shootings in one week -- in the holiday season, no less? Seems to me
>> it's time to form some sort of national policy. Ignoring the issue is
>> not working.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 6:05 PM, terry l. ridder <terrylr at blauedonau.com> wrote:
>>> hello;
>>>
>>> there is not much to say.
>>>
>>> just take a moment and pray for the parents who have lost a child and
>>> the families who have lost a parent. there is nothing that may be said
>>> that will ease the pain and heartbreak these parents and families are
>>> feeling.
>>>
>>> hug your children and spouse tonight and tell them you love them.
>>>
>>> --
>>> terry l. ridder ><>
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>> --
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