[TheForge] Light bulbs and shop power

Sat Aug 4 10:00:27 EDT 2012

Your description is not quite making sense to me... a NEIGHBOR'S shop 
(friend??) is having this effect on yours?  Not grokking this, but my 
pea-sized brain aside, what you OUGHT to do is to have a completely 
separate service between the shop and the house, not to mention any 
neighbors.  Running lines from your home service to a shop is, IMO, 
foolish in the extreme.  One of my few absolute maxims in life is NEVER 
fuck around where electricity is concerned.  I burned my own house down 
in '02 that way - accidentally, of course, but burnt nevertheless.  If 
you've never had a home burn, trust me that this is something you do not 
ever want to go through if you can avoid it.

Yes, it costs money to have a new service put it.  It costs a lot more 
in all terms to replace your life when the house turns to charcoal and 
fly ash.

I'm dead-serious about this and mark my words that if perchance 
something goes wrong and your house or your shop goes up, you will not 
be a happy camper no matter if you have a billion dollars worth of 
coverage.  I didn't think anything of the little buzzing noise in the 
dryer, so I turned it off and went to Marshall's for a visit.  Four 
hours later my house was GONE. At the risk of beating a dead horse I 
will once again advise you to get your service straightened out before 
something unholy happens to your home and, god forbid, you.

  Good luck.

On 8/3/2012 7:47 AM, Ron Childers wrote:
> They hold water- Edison said so. (: His biography is interesting; he had
> over 1,000 patents and was a very precocious kid but for some reason he
> was hung up on DC electric power. I think it was Tesla who developed AC.
> My grandfather told me Edison said radio waves would eventually
> interfere with the weather patterns. If our shops were DC the cables
> would be huge.
>
> Back on topic: The shop lights go very dim every time a friend turns on
> a grinder in his shop which is over 100 feet from the house. The wiring
> to the shop is fed from the house and there is no drop box. My guess is
> the wire is too small to carry the load that far. If someone honks down
> on the abrasive cut-off saw it trips a breaker in the house. It is an
> electrician's nightmare that was there when he bought the house and so
> far is only annoying, but does anyone know of this kind of situation
> causing a fire? I think it needs heavier copper wire and a drop box.
> Also, I don't know the amperage of the breaker. I used #6 and don't have
> that situation.  I feel a bit uneasy about this but need to justify my
> concerns before beating him up about it. Does anyone have some words of
> wisdom? Thanx, Ron
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Frost
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:32 PM
> To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] TheForge Digest, Vol 102, Issue 14
>
> Simple logic, zero. They hold nothing; vacuum.
>
> Jer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Childers"<ron at munlaw.net>
> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA"<theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] TheForge Digest, Vol 102, Issue 14
>
>
>> How would you compute the volume of a light bulb? (-:\>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andy Gladish
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 1:43 PM
>> To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] TheForge Digest, Vol 102, Issue 14
>>
>> Thanks! I figured this one (a different way involving a lot of
> geometry-
>> I'm going to use your method!) out at 3:30 this morning, lying awake-
>> it's always wierd how simple the solutions are once you get them...
>> Andy G.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:29:33 -0400
>>> From: "Ron Childers"<ron at munlaw.net>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1/2" pipe or square for the pattern....Bend to shape then lay out on
>>> the shop floor and duplicate. Try it for fit before final welding.
>>> Jeff and crew did one and it was a real treat getting it up to the
> 3rd
>>
>>> story through a narrow staircase after the wall was painted and the
>>> hardwood floor was varnished. It fit; billowed curves and all, yea!
>>> The owner's wife caught us in the act of final fitting and she loved
>>> it..Compliments on the work, husband paid the price and the check
>>> didn't bounce. Fitting on an outdoor railing should be easier but it
>> must adhere to specs...
>>>
>>>
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