[TheForge] OT: Spring tile question

Tue Apr 3 15:56:33 EDT 2012

Andrew,

Some springs are "wet" springs.  They only flow in wet seasons.  Springs are really an intersection of the water table with the ground plane.  Water table is not flat, it undulates quite a bit dependent on soils & rock strata.

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>Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:34:48 -0400
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>Thanks for the info.  I have discovered at least 3 springs on the 
>property.  The oddity in this is that we are supposedly on a "dry 
>ridge".  Nobody has succeeded in sinking a well.  I am wondering whether 
>a dug well might be viable.
>
>At any rate, the one spring flows well, the other two being in the 
>pasture and I have not yet put a shovel into the ground.
>
>The other thing I would like to do but cannot due to having no money 
>would be to dam the hollow behind the house.  A 30' high earthen dam at 
>the point I'd like to put it would yield somewhere between 6 and 8 
>million gallons of reserves.  I would plumb the house to it and use it 
>for irrigation, swimming hole, and would stock it as a backup food 
>source in case one of the great rocket surgeons finally manage to fully 
>nuke the economy.
>
>Between the water and the gas wells we should be well fixed for the 
>post-armageddon world. :)
>
>On 4/1/2012 5:39 PM, David E. Smucker wrote:
>> Andy,  Google under "spring box"  I think that is where I found things
>> several years ago.  We reworked an old spring on our land.  When done it
>> flowed 1.3 gpm in very dry weather and in excess of 20 gpm in wet weather
>> (Jan Feb here).  In our area "western NC" we used concrete items from the
>> local septic tank supplier.  The spring box itself was 2 and 1/2 foot square
>> boxes with open bottom and tops.  We stacked these two high for the spring
>> box itself.  After digging out the spring with a large back hoe we but
>> several yards of gravel in the hole and set the spring boxes with an open
>> bottom on the gravel.  They cast a new "cover" for the boxes.  Then back
>> filled around the boxes.  We then took a 1 and 1/2 half pvc line with a drop
>> of about 6 to 8 foot down to a spring tank of 700 gallons.  The bottom half
>> of a 1500 gallon septic tank with a center divider.  They cast a flat cover
>> of this, with two openings, one over each half of the tank.  We then ran a 1
>> and 1/2 inch line down the mountain with a drop of about 80 feet so we have
>> 40 psi water pressure.  We have several sets of over flows.
>>
>> 1.3 gpm is a lot of water, over 1800 gallons per day.  Domestic use is less
>> than 100 gallons per day per person -- so we have lots of water for a house
>> plus a garden.  Down side of this was a cost of about $ 5,000 for labor and
>> materials.  You can cut this a lot if you do the labor and have access to
>> the back hoe and don't have to clear and build a woods road to get it done.
>>
>> I can send you pictures off TheForge if you want.
>>
>> Dave Smucker
>> Brasstown, NC
>>
>>
>>
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>> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 11:49 PM
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>> Subject: [TheForge] OT: Spring tile question
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>> Folks,
>>
>> I have been trying to find information on how to develop springs and am
>> having a pretty hard time of it.  Here is WV they call the device for
>> capturing the water a tile.  Searching the net for "spring tile" returns
>> about fifty trillion pages of all sorts of things wholly unrelated to
>> springs.
>>
>> Do any of you know anything about developing springs or of sites that
>> discuss this?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
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