[TheForge] Clean unused paint cans? OT: POL:

[peter fels]

On Mar 14, 2011, at 3:02 AM, dann at wctatel.net wrote:

> 
> Yep.  Nuclear hazard vs oil hazard.

The thing about nuke hazards is how long the radiation persists...it makes it a much bigger problem.
The gulf oil spill is a minor nuisance by comparison.
> 
> I had friends send me a bunch of anti-environmentalist emails this past
> week.  Maybe that just coincided with oil prices jumping up, and a bunch
> of wannabe Presidential Candidates doing political rallies around Iowa.
> 
> Environmentalists become the political whipping boys, when they try to
> balance the poisoning of what we eat, drink, and breath( our shared
> environment) versus economic interests of big business.
> 
> My Conservative grandparents believed in Conservation.  For them, being
> conservative meant not wasting anything.  Grandma thought she was a
> Conservative Republican, but these days, I think if she were alive now,
> she would fit better with the Environmentalists than the Drill Baby Tea
> Party.
> 
> Like changing the meaning of a word in slang,  as in using the slang word
> "Bad" to mean good, I think that the term Conservative got flipped upside
> down, during the last 60 years.
> 
> Anyway, I don't believe real Conservatives would be pushing to ease
> regulations on new nuclear plants, or how to commend the corporate
> safeguards as demonstrated last Summer by Big Oil.
> 
> Dann
> 
> 
> Peter Fels wrote:
>> I live about 50 miles from a big, aging, nuke plant that's about 40 miles
>> from a part of the San Andreas fault, that has a jog in it that hasn't had
>> a major quake for a long time. It's right on the ocean and has saved up a
>> life time of spent waste rods kept in  steel tanks of water
>> Diablo Cyn ( right name anyway).
>> I'm typing this using the sparks from that plant right now.
>> The company that owns it (PG&E) has dodged responsibility for the eventual
>> decommissioning and clean up.
>> None of the local counties will let them truck the waste across their
>> roads.
>> My last place was about 25 miles up the coast from the plant, also on the
>> moraine above the "Pacific".
>> That place was washed away ( it was wonderful to be able to work steel and
>> fish at the same time).
>> Unpainted 20 ga steel would rust through in a year there.
>> When they stuffed the building of the plant down the locals throats,
>> saying
>> "Clean, Safe, too cheap to meter", they sited it on Avila Bay..a funky
>> little jewel of a harbor.
>> Ironically, it was later discovered that Standard Oil had leaked millions
>> of gallons nearby.
>> In the event of a japan size catastrophe, even if the roads were somehow
>> to remain open,
>> the adjacent population couldn't be evacuated in a reasonably short period
>> of time.
>> It sure did employ a bunch of welders for a while though.,
>> My guess/hope is that nukes as an alternative energy source is about over.
>> 
>> 
> 
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