[TheForge] OT -12v motors

[peter fels]

You are right Jim;
They keep their staff lawyers heavily sedated.
The machines are much more useful and versatile without guards and many of us use them that way, at least part of the time.
They are also much more dangerous without guards.
If you are a beginner , accident prone or a space case...doncha dare.
There's no hope for the rest of us.


On Jun 21, 2011, at 1:30 PM, James Davis wrote:

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> here a link to Baldor buffers with pictures ...non of them have guards http://www.mile-x.com/baldor-buffers.aspx
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> Jim Davis
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>> From: akfrosty at mtaonline.net
>> To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
>> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:03:53 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT -12v motors
>> 
>> Hmmm, your last post and this one raise a couple questions in my mind. #1 
>> Are you really teaching your students to be slow learners?
>> #2. I agree, a butter fingered person carrying an anvil in the shop may well 
>> be a contender for most dangerous.
>> 
>> More seriousness now. Don't push into the wire wheel or buff unless you have 
>> to to get to the inside of a feature. Wire brushes and buffs work best at 
>> the ends of bristles, it's where the fibers carrying compound of wires don't 
>> slide across the project. If you push hard enough to bend the wires, they 
>> lay flat and don't cut, same for a buff. A heavy touch will also load the 
>> grit in a stone wheel reducing it's tooth while rolling the edges of the 
>> stock.
>> 
>> Guards on rotating machinery are good ideas but I've had things come through 
>> some guards and the ones nothing can get out of make it really hard to get 
>> things in through meaning you are working at BAD angles of attack. Learning 
>> to work out of the potential ballistic tragectory(sp?) is your best bet. As 
>> an added safety measure, especially when others are in the same area is to 
>> put something behind you like a locker to act as a scatter shield.
>> 
>> Jer
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <Grover.Richardson at gtri.gatech.edu>
>> To: <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 1:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT -12v motors
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>> 
>>> I'm a slow learner<G>.  I also sometimes teach newbies.  I always (even 
>>> only doing demos) call the grinder "(bring on a full voice, rich in 
>>> harmonics, that can be heard from far away, think Perry Como singing, and 
>>> then someone drops an anvil on his foot in the middle of a long note) the 
>>> single most dangerous piece of equipment in the blacksmith shop." 
>>> Certainly there are more dangerous pieces there, but the grinder/buffer is 
>>> the one most likely to get away from a person; before he/she can get away 
>>> from it<G>.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>>> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Frost
>>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 9:29 PM
>>> To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT -12v motors
>>> 
>>> That's true indeed Grover but screwing up work faster means you learn 
>>> faster
>>> so it's a trade off.
>>> 
>>> Andy has a solid safety point; faster means more damage if the work gets
>>> away from you. SO stay out of the plane of rotation. Make it a matter of
>>> reflex when operating wire wheels, buffs and belt grinders even wheel
>>> grinders. If you just never stand in the plane of rotaion you never have 
>>> to
>>> remember which when it's okay or which tool might get you a new piercing 
>>> in
>>> a bad place.
>>> 
>>> Jer
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