[TheForge] Forge welding

[Garrick Peterson]

No, it was the technique Steve spoke of - having a wet anvil and
hammer when working steel.

-Garrick

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Jerry Frost <akfrosty at mtaonline.net> wrote:
> By "wet forging" are you talking about fluxing the surface to keep air off
> it? That works but it's messy and can be hard on forge liners. I do it for
> special things.
>
> Jer
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>
> On a note somewhat related to this (limiting scale while working
> metal), I was just recently introduced to the concept of "wet forging"
> as a method of reducing the scale while working metal. At first, I
> discounted it as an unknown quantity of hooey, but googling for the
> term does give a fair number of examples (most pointing to swordmaking
> as it's ancestry).
>
> Can anybody here speak to the efficacy of this method? It would seem
> better at cooling down the surface metal than doing anything to the
> scale. And surface scale would seem better handled by a grinder these
> days.
>
> -Garrick
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jerry Frost <akfrosty at mtaonline.net> wrote:
>> Yeah and the laundry borax cakes quickly enough I'd think they'd find
>> something effective if any is added at all.
>> Jer
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>>>
>>> Chuck I don't doubt there is some discernible difference between high
>>> purity anhydrous sodium borate and laundry additive grade sodium borate
>>> decahydrate as a flux. But my understanding is if they add an ingredient
>>> to a product it must be in the MSDS. Did they at one time add an anti
>>> caking additive, possibly, but every MD SDS I have seen for it lists just
>>> sodium borate decahydrate
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Chuck Robinson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since the borax is not USP grade I doubt it is chemically pure but the
>>>> impurities are also not listed in the MSDS sheet, as long as they are
>>>> not dangerous, toxic or carcinogenic.
>>>> I'm not an expert on the subject.
>>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> James Binnion
>>> jbin at well.com
>>>
>>>
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