[TheForge] Forge welding

[Jerry Frost]

By "wet forging" are you talking about fluxing the surface to keep air off 
it? That works but it's messy and can be hard on forge liners. I do it for 
special things.

Jer
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From: "Garrick Peterson" <garrickp at gmail.com>
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On a note somewhat related to this (limiting scale while working
metal), I was just recently introduced to the concept of "wet forging"
as a method of reducing the scale while working metal. At first, I
discounted it as an unknown quantity of hooey, but googling for the
term does give a fair number of examples (most pointing to swordmaking
as it's ancestry).

Can anybody here speak to the efficacy of this method? It would seem
better at cooling down the surface metal than doing anything to the
scale. And surface scale would seem better handled by a grinder these
days.

-Garrick

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jerry Frost <akfrosty at mtaonline.net> wrote:
> Yeah and the laundry borax cakes quickly enough I'd think they'd find
> something effective if any is added at all.
> Jer
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>>
>> Chuck I don't doubt there is some discernible difference between high
>> purity anhydrous sodium borate and laundry additive grade sodium borate
>> decahydrate as a flux. But my understanding is if they add an ingredient
>> to a product it must be in the MSDS. Did they at one time add an anti
>> caking additive, possibly, but every MD SDS I have seen for it lists just
>> sodium borate decahydrate
>>
>>
>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Chuck Robinson wrote:
>>
>>> Since the borax is not USP grade I doubt it is chemically pure but the
>>> impurities are also not listed in the MSDS sheet, as long as they are
>>> not dangerous, toxic or carcinogenic.
>>> I'm not an expert on the subject.
>>> Chuck
>>
>> James Binnion
>> jbin at well.com
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>>
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