[TheForge] Fw: Anvil repair

[peter fels & phoebe palmer]

  Honored to have you both disagree with me.
I think we have the range of opinion about nailed down;
And we will probably be safely dead when and if
there are bad repercussions.

On 10/14/2010 11:24 AM, dan tull wrote:
>
>>     Was reluctant to jump on Peter's post, but since my friend Andy did, I
>> will respond also.
>>     In Appalachia, we mostly find farm anvils that were mistreated by the
>> grandson of the farmer that(was a blacksmith)shoed mules and sharpened
>> plows. Broken faces, chipped corners,and deep dings because he was too
>> lazy to start a fire. In the industrial North, you can find shop anvils in
>> pristine condition. We needed to repair anvils.Using the proper rod, will
>> not cause anvils to"...catastrophically fail under use."
>>     I am a full time smith, and have regularly use repaired anvils for the
>> last 22 years. I have used MG750 rods successfully.
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andrew Vida"<osan at netlabs.net>
>> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA"<theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Anvil repair workshop in NJ
>>
>>
>>>
>>> peter fels&  phoebe palmer wrote:
>>>>    Be extremely reluctant to weld on an anvil that has any life left in
>>>> it.
>>>> Many functional anvils have been ruined that way.
>>>> The HAZ from any welding bead ruins the temper and grain structure of
>>>> the adjacent face.
>>>> In the long run, most welded-on anvils will catastrophically fail under
>>>> use.
>>> WILL?  Might fail.  Example: my 124# mouse was the guinea pig for the
>>> NJBA event.  Marshall laid in  beads of several different compositions
>>> so we could determine which we liked best.  That was about 13 years ago
>>> and I've worked that anvil much.  It spent at least 2 years in the shop
>>> at Allaire with all manner of newbies doing all manner of horribly
>>> unsound things to it.  There is precisely ONE small ding in the edge and
>>> that was my doing when a rather strong blow went errant.
>>>
>>> If the job is done correctly, and we've rebuilt probably 100 or more by
>>> this time (Bruce?), the anvil will be left in better than new condition.
>>>   We preheat them carefully, even when rod mfr. says it is  not
>>> necessary, grind out all the edges deeply - chasing cracks pretty far
>>> into the face, lay the wire in properly, and then grind them (my job,
>>> mainly) to form.  I have yet to hear of a single failure in any of our
>>> jobs.  Of course, I'm now in WV and may be somewhat out of that loop.
>>> I"m thinking I may have to be present for the coming event.
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