[TheForge] TheForge Digest, Vol 74, Issue 17

[Jerry Frost]

I like epoxy for long term outdoors though nothing is forever so eventually 
it'll need retouching.

Don't worry about the dog and an acid nor PROBABLY chlorine. Acids are sour 
the chef calls acidic bright flavors. Normal folk call it sour and tend to 
love it if balanced with either sweet or creamy. Anyway, no dog, maybe one 
of Pete's excepting, is going to injest a dangerous amount of spilled acid. 
You're more likely to miss a flashing strobe in a cavern than a dog is to 
miss a dangerous concentration of acid in the grass. Goodness Darlin, if the 
dog won't eat it YOU steer clear, hear? Think canary in the mine. Oh sure, 
your dog is going to be delighted to eat things you would not only NOT 
consider but things that would sicken you and do it without bad effect.

I don't hold with using chlorine AND an acid for anything. Chlorine is a 
strong base so mixing it with an acid might do a BAD thing, think free 
flowing chlorine gas, perhaps excessive heat or some mysterious bubbling 
vapor spewing goop. chlorine and salt should be pretty benign so long as you 
don't pick some exotically toxic or strong salt. Vinegar or muriatic acid in 
dilution and salt should be just fine and if the dog likes the flavor you 
might want to give it a try as a marinate or in a sauce. Take little tiny 
bites and only two the first time you try this in a recipe. Take notes of 
ANY stomach reaction! Besides that wonderful sated feeling of course. If you 
end up calling 911 for a quick ride to a poison crontrol savy hospital do 
NOT tell em I told you to give it a try!!! I am NOT suggesting you have 
muriatic acid for dinner! I'm just saying enough muriatic to be toxic will 
be so strongly SOUR you or the dog will be really unlikely to actually get 
it down your gullet.

Once neutralized, well rinsed and thoroughly dried, I like 240f to drive off 
hygroscopic moisture trapped in the rust, a nice coat of clear epoxy should 
make for a good durable rust colored end finish.

Best of luck.

Jer
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It ain't real
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lucky7Steel" <lucky7steel at gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] TheForge Digest, Vol 74, Issue 17


> Hi there,
>
> By lacquer i meant clear finish (like Tremclad). Dave does that mean that
> it's safe to seal it with such a thing? Should i wipe the piece first 
> before
> the spraying? I'm used to removing all the rust to clear coat! As for the
> muratic acid/chlorine stuff. i'm worried it'll get on the grass and seap
> into my garden. My dogs do like to eat whatever is lying around the back
> including grass and dir (and poo but that's another story) ;-)
> salt and vinegar, they can deal with ;-)
>
> ~Karen~
>