[TheForge] Carnauba wax (Was: Japan dryer)

[Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer]

A convincing argument Reis, for most applications.
"> I never much liked being a chemist, or an alchemist, and mixing used
 > motor oil with essence of cancer and a pinch of emphysema over a hot
 > fire of plastic milk jugs- I just like to buy a paint or varnish that
 > some idiot PHD spent years perfecting in a million dollar lab, and
 > then is produced in a state of the art factory- call me old fashioned,
 > I guess...."
Grin.
The question on commercially available carnauba waxes is, what % is 
actually the right stuff. ( don't forget car waxes).

ries wrote:
> I am a little confused- Caranauba wax is available in EVERY  
> woodworking mail order catalog, at most every woodworking store like  
> Wood crafters or Lee Valley, at most decent paint stores, and most  
> good hardware stores.
> I have never had a problem finding it.
> I use it occasionally, in paste form, on wood, or stone. But on metal,  
> I  just hate callbacks, and rubbing and buffing wax is just too much  
> work for me.
> 
> On indoor stuff, I am a fan of clear krylon spray paint. Takes  
> seconds, lasts years, gives a slight sheen but is not thick or glossy,  
> and easy to reapply.

> 
> On outdoor projects, I either use stainless, or have pieces hot dipped  
> galvanized, or, if the customer insists, powder coated, although I  
> tell em how powder coating will fall off after a few years, and cost a  
> fortune to fix.
> Or, I just let stuff rust.
> Got a few signs now in downtown Edison (population 130) that are  
> happily rusting away, 3 to 5 years and counting, I figure they will  
> outlast me by a good 30 years or so, and, if I am in the ground, I  
> aint rising up to do any callbacks...
> 
> ries
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer wrote:
> 
> Thanks Mike;
> A while back i found a supplier of second grade carnauba who was only
> willing to sell in 55 gal drums...for a reasonable price,
> considering..but then i would find myself in the retail wax
> business...not where i wanted to go.
> 
> Mike Spencer wrote:
>>> Mike..did you apply the carnauba  mixed with other oils or waxes?
>> Yeah.  Melted it together with a little linseed oil.  Not enough to
>> make it soft and pasty but a little less hard.  Almost alway applied
>> it with torch heat to flow it into crevices and surface textures.
>>
>> Off and on, I fooled around with different mixtures including adding
>> beeswax and/or turpentine.  I've also use commercial paste wax.  I
>> forget the brand and don't know if that particular kind is still
>> available.  It claimed to contain carnauba wax.
>>
>>> Read somewhere that the carnauba was kinda brittle..
>> Yes, brittle and very hard.  Also, any excess straight carnauba that
>> melts and collects in crevices tends to look crusty and white and has
>> to be re-melted, tooth-brushed, scraped off or otherwise tediously
>> dealt with.
>>
>>
>> FWIW,
>> - Mike
>>
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