[TheForge] blackened steel finish

[Andy Gladish]

Another quote from Frank- "there's always room at the top"
There just aren't many people who do top flight forging....course we still 
have to promote our abilities and end up doing as much educating as 
hammering.

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From: "dan tull" <dantull at numail.org>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 11:02 AM
To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [TheForge] blackened steel finish

> Well, those are our customers. "We don't want Kmart customers, we want
> Niemen-Marcus folks".
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Swisher" <rwswisher1 at verizon.net>
> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 12:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] blackened steel finish
>
>
>> Amen to that Dan.  I believe that sentiment comes primarily from the
>> German school of forging.  I embrace it wholeheartedly but my wife 
>> wonders
>> why "we" go to so much trouble to do that when only other blacksmiths and
>> a few forged-metal connoisseurs will notice the difference, as it relates
>> to the aesthetics and price.
>>
>> Ron
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: dan tull
>>  To: mspencer at tallships.ca ; Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
>>  Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:28 AM
>>  Subject: Re: [TheForge] blackened steel finish
>>
>>
>>  St. Francis used to say to get round, start w/ sq.  To get sq. start w/
>>  round, hammer all of it.
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: "Mike Spencer" <mspencer at tallships.ca>
>>  To: <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>  Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 1:28 AM
>>  Subject: [TheForge] Re: blackened steel finish
>>
>>
>>  >
>>  > "Lucky7Steel" <lucky7steel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>  >
>>  > Karen> Anyone have any suggestions for getting basically the mat
>>  > Karen> finish of hot rolled on cold rolled steel?  I have trouble
>>  > Karen> finding Patina's in Toronto.
>>  >
>>  > All the replies have addressed the 2nd sentence: how to get a black
>>  > patina.  My experience with cold rolled is not that I can't get a
>>  > nice black finish, it's that the relatively shiny surface texture
>>  > doesn't go away.  It's not clear whether Karen is looking for a patina
>>  > or for a way to modify the industrial-product look of the smooth
>>  > finish on cold rolled.
>>  >
>>  > For the latter, you might take a yellow heat so that the piece scales
>>  > a little.  Or you might try sand blasting. Forging all over at a
>>  > yellow heat should do it but you knew that, so that probably isn't
>>  > suitable for your purpose.
>>  >
>>  > There was a point when I could only get 3/8" square in cold rolled and
>>  > I just gave up making fire pokers out of 3/8 sq because the cold
>>  > rolled look, even with the corners chamfered, didn't suit me and the
>>  > price of a poker in my market didn't justify more messing around.
>>  >
>>  > Pokers? Yarn time:
>>  >
>>  > A long-time friend came by one day and wanted fire poker.  So I rooted
>>  > in my pile of rusty junk, found one left over from my crafty markety
>>  > days, cleaned it up and blacked it in the fire.  No charge.  The
>>  > friend has a lot of credit, y'know?  He got a big kick out of the
>>  > art-found-in-a-junk-pile part.
>>  >
>>  > A couple of months later, he showed up with his girlfriend and wanted
>>  > another fire poker, this time as a gift for Bill.  But the previous
>>  > year, I'd done a little job for Bill and told him the fee was a case
>>  > of beer, delivered before the end of August.  The beer never
>>  > materialized.  So this time, I found yet another poker of the same
>>  > vintage in the same junk heap, did protocol with wire brush and hot
>>  > blacking and told my friend it was forty bucks. After a conference
>>  > with the girlfriend, he took it very well, paid up.  I told him the
>>  > story about the case of beer a couple of years later.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > - Mike
>>  >
>>  > -- 
>>  > Michael Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada       .~.
>>  >                                                           /V\
>>  > mspencer at tallships.ca                                     /( )\
>>  > http://home.tallships.ca/mspencer/                        ^^-^^
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