[TheForge] blackened steel finish

[dan tull]

Well, those are our customers. "We don't want Kmart customers, we want 
Niemen-Marcus folks".


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Swisher" <rwswisher1 at verizon.net>
To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] blackened steel finish


> Amen to that Dan.  I believe that sentiment comes primarily from the 
> German school of forging.  I embrace it wholeheartedly but my wife wonders 
> why "we" go to so much trouble to do that when only other blacksmiths and 
> a few forged-metal connoisseurs will notice the difference, as it relates 
> to the aesthetics and price.
>
> Ron
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: dan tull
>  To: mspencer at tallships.ca ; Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
>  Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:28 AM
>  Subject: Re: [TheForge] blackened steel finish
>
>
>  St. Francis used to say to get round, start w/ sq.  To get sq. start w/
>  round, hammer all of it.
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Mike Spencer" <mspencer at tallships.ca>
>  To: <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>  Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 1:28 AM
>  Subject: [TheForge] Re: blackened steel finish
>
>
>  >
>  > "Lucky7Steel" <lucky7steel at gmail.com> wrote:
>  >
>  > Karen> Anyone have any suggestions for getting basically the mat
>  > Karen> finish of hot rolled on cold rolled steel?  I have trouble
>  > Karen> finding Patina's in Toronto.
>  >
>  > All the replies have addressed the 2nd sentence: how to get a black
>  > patina.  My experience with cold rolled is not that I can't get a
>  > nice black finish, it's that the relatively shiny surface texture
>  > doesn't go away.  It's not clear whether Karen is looking for a patina
>  > or for a way to modify the industrial-product look of the smooth
>  > finish on cold rolled.
>  >
>  > For the latter, you might take a yellow heat so that the piece scales
>  > a little.  Or you might try sand blasting. Forging all over at a
>  > yellow heat should do it but you knew that, so that probably isn't
>  > suitable for your purpose.
>  >
>  > There was a point when I could only get 3/8" square in cold rolled and
>  > I just gave up making fire pokers out of 3/8 sq because the cold
>  > rolled look, even with the corners chamfered, didn't suit me and the
>  > price of a poker in my market didn't justify more messing around.
>  >
>  > Pokers? Yarn time:
>  >
>  > A long-time friend came by one day and wanted fire poker.  So I rooted
>  > in my pile of rusty junk, found one left over from my crafty markety
>  > days, cleaned it up and blacked it in the fire.  No charge.  The
>  > friend has a lot of credit, y'know?  He got a big kick out of the
>  > art-found-in-a-junk-pile part.
>  >
>  > A couple of months later, he showed up with his girlfriend and wanted
>  > another fire poker, this time as a gift for Bill.  But the previous
>  > year, I'd done a little job for Bill and told him the fee was a case
>  > of beer, delivered before the end of August.  The beer never
>  > materialized.  So this time, I found yet another poker of the same
>  > vintage in the same junk heap, did protocol with wire brush and hot
>  > blacking and told my friend it was forty bucks. After a conference
>  > with the girlfriend, he took it very well, paid up.  I told him the
>  > story about the case of beer a couple of years later.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > - Mike
>  >
>  > -- 
>  > Michael Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada       .~.
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>  > mspencer at tallships.ca                                     /( )\
>  > http://home.tallships.ca/mspencer/                        ^^-^^
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