[TheForge] metalworking question- soldering brass

[Jerry Frost]

Thanks Jim. Checking MSDS is a good idea and it can make sometimes snooty 
counter people take notice and treat you a little more respectfully.
Frosty the Lucky
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If it ain't forged
It ain't real
wrought iron is
The Frostworks



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Binnion" <jbin at well.com>
To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] metalworking question- soldering brass


> Copper phosphorous "solders" are technically braze alloys as they melt
> at over 850F They owe their low melting point to the copper
> phosphorous eutectic @ 1317 F. I have not seen any use of cadmium in
> them but it is always a good idea to verify with a MSDS.  Over at
> Harris website http://www.harrisproductsgroup.com/consumables/msds.asp
> there are spec sheets for their alloys . Most manufacturers have such
> info on the web now.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Jan 21, 2010, at 10:50 PM, Jerry Frost wrote:
>
>> Yeah, cadmium is a good thing to be afraid of, it's BAD stuff.
>>
>> Jim: I just tossed out a thought about the folk who make Phos copper
>> solder
>> and such, might make one to match brass. Am I right assuming these
>> would or
>> could be a Braze Alloy, potentially containing cadmium?
>>
>> If yes, what a perfect example of why a person should be very
>> careful about
>> just tossing out ideas.
>>
>> Frosty the Lucky.
>> -------------------------
>> If it ain't forged
>> It ain't real
>> wrought iron is
>> The Frostworks
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "James Binnion" <jbin at well.com>
>> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] metalworking question- soldering brass
>>
>>
>>> No, not if you mean true solders that melt below 850 F, but many
>>> industrial silver solders (braze alloys) do. Most jewelry grade
>>> silver
>>> solders (braze alloys) have been reformulated to be cadmium free but
>>> many gold solders (braze alloys) still contain cadmium.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Andy Gladish wrote:
>>>
>>>> James, do common plumbing solders have cadmium in them? I wasn't
>>>> aware
>>>> that it was used at all...frightening!
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
>>>
>>> James Binnion
>>> jbin at well.com
>>>
>>
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> James Binnion
> jbin at well.com
>
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